OT: Hillary is DONE!

[Arkansas]

If Obama wins the general election...
When he's sworn in to office, what name will be read with his oath?

Won't his FULL name be part of it all?
Why is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama out of bounds now?
How will it read, IF, he's sworn in?


later~

Boy you republicans really are stupid. Here I only thought you were all just ignorant and arrogant as well.

You DO know Obama is related to Dick Cheney right?

Oops, busted. Go Google it, it's true.

yeah, I'm pretty darned stupid. no denying that.
but what does that have to do with using Obama's middle name?

btw, the '10th cousin thing' was all over the news last fall. we all saw it. I think Bush is on the list too.
thanks for the reply.


later~

[Rockindeano]

You missed my point.

No getting through to you Cons.

Use the name. It's the ONLY thing you have.

I feel so sorry for you all.

[Saint John]

I feel so sorry for you all.

Never feel sorry for us. Regardless of which candidate wins we'll be just fine.

[conversationpc]

Are you suggesting that George W. Bush is a muslim too??? Wouldnt surprise me, as close as he is to the bin laden family, if the fucker didnt take the Alllah Oath and bent over to pray at their annual get-together.

Bush definitely displays many more religious extremist behaviors than Obama does.

Obama attended a church pastored by a black separatist minister, who gave an award to the racist "minister" Farrakhan. He continued attending the church which, to me, means he lent his approval to it. If my pastor, for instance, gave an award to someone from the KKK, shouldn't I be morally obligated to protest by leaving the church or risk lending my approval, by default, to his actions?

[The Sushi Hunter]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DMs-p5y6cvo

[Monker]

Obama attended a church pastored by a black separatist minister, who gave an award to the racist "minister" Farrakhan. He continued attending the church which, to me, means he lent his approval to it. If my pastor, for instance, gave an award to someone from the KKK, shouldn't I be morally obligated to protest by leaving the church or risk lending my approval, by default, to his actions?

No, because you should be going to church to show your 'approval' of God and the Bible, not of any one member of the church - including the pastor.

This is nothing but a partisan political criticism. If you want to judge Obama's morals at least do it with his own words and actions and not someone elses.

[Monker]

You missed my point.

No getting through to you Cons.

Use the name. It's the ONLY thing you have.

I feel so sorry for you all.

They also have raising taxes...which BOTH Clinton and Obama said they will do by backing off the Bush tax cuts.us

[conversationpc]

Obama attended a church pastored by a black separatist minister, who gave an award to the racist "minister" Farrakhan. He continued attending the church which, to me, means he lent his approval to it. If my pastor, for instance, gave an award to someone from the KKK, shouldn't I be morally obligated to protest by leaving the church or risk lending my approval, by default, to his actions?

No, because you should be going to church to show your 'approval' of God and the Bible, not of any one member of the church - including the pastor.

This is nothing but a partisan political criticism. If you want to judge Obama's morals at least do it with his own words and actions and not someone elses.

The pastor is the leader of the church. He represents them. He's the guy who's teaching the congregation on Sunday. Are you telling me that if you were attending a church where the lead employee was teaching these kinds of things that you wouldn't be outraged and either ask that he/she resign or you would leave the church?

Also, if I'm supposed to be showing my "approval" of God and the Bible, then shouldn't I follow its teachings by holding my church's leaders to a high moral standard? The New Testament is very clear that ministers are to be morally upright.

I'll tell you one thing...If President Bush were attending a church where the minister was advocating segregationist ideology, you would be outraged as would the rest of the nation and rightly so. He would be pilloried and asked why he was lending his approval to that kind of teaching by attending that church.

[Monker]

October 31, 1998:

Clinton Signs Law Making It US Policy to Remove Hussein in Iraq

President Clinton signs the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 into law. The act, which passed with overwhelming support from Democrats and Republicans in both the House and Senate, was written by Trent Lott and other Republicans with significant input from Ahmed Chalabi and his aide, Francis Brooke. The act makes it “the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.”


You guys need to pay more attention. This was a done deal. If it wasn't W. It might have been Barry.

Well, following the 'law of the land's means very little to this president...it would mean even less when it is written by a Clinton.

[Rockindeano]

You missed my point.

No getting through to you Cons.

Use the name. It's the ONLY thing you have.

I feel so sorry for you all.

They also have raising taxes...which BOTH Clinton and Obama said they will do by backing off the Bush tax cuts.us

Tax cuts need to be rolled back. Taxes are necessary to repair this once great place after the assfucking it's had the last 7.5 years.

[RossValoryRocks]

You missed my point.

No getting through to you Cons.

Use the name. It's the ONLY thing you have.

I feel so sorry for you all.

They also have raising taxes...which BOTH Clinton and Obama said they will do by backing off the Bush tax cuts.us

Tax cuts need to be rolled back. Taxes are necessary to repair this once great place after the assfucking it's had the last 7.5 years.

No spending needs rolled back...the republican congress wasn't very smart...they spent and spent and spent...which is part of the reason they lost the majority...the conservative base wants a SMALL government.

Yes taxes are neccesary...I just don't think that I should have to pay almost 1/2 the money I earn to the government...get rid of the bloat in government...get rid of all the pet projects Congress has, the pork as it's called...make the government more efficient...then you can keep taxes low, run the government and pay down the debt.

[Arkansas]

Totally agree RVR. Excessive spending is the bane of economies...national, local, and personal. Live off of your means. Don't rely on others. Too much government creates a welfare attitude...an attitude of entitlement. Government's job isn't to care for its populus, it's to maintain an evironment of free spirit and innovation. The Fed should never have to give away money. And most social programs do just that. People become accustomed to their government providing their means, and/or, bailing them out when they make bad decisions.

America was built on innovation and taking charge of our own environments. Does there need to be a watchdog over the 'haves' and the 'have nots'? Yes, to some extent. But still if people would take charge of their lives, and not rely on some program for existence, then we'd all be better off, and our forefathers would be most proud.

Yes, be compassionate...very compassionate. However, take charge of your own existence! Never rely on anyone else to provide for you.

Btw, there's a huge difference between justice, if you've been wronged, and government mandated policies. Yes, I want laws to protect me, but I choose government that allows me individualism, not socialism.


later~

[Rockindeano]

The Iraqi war is PORK.

Bridges in Minnesota, levees in New Orleans, highways in Nebraska, Light rail in Charlotte, coastal cleanup in California, housing for the poor in Philadelphia, are all projects that the country needs.

A BULLSHIT war that costs US 275 million bucks PER DAY, and gets us NOTHING, is PORK!!


PS- the Big Dig in Boston is the biggest bullshit Pork project of all time, even though it's money better spent than in Iraq, it is the worst engineered shit ever.

[Tomulator]

The Iraqi war is PORK.

Bridges in Minnesota, levees in New Orleans, highways in Nebraska, Light rail in Charlotte, coastal cleanup in California, housing for the poor in Philadelphia, are all projects that the country needs.

A BULLSHIT war that costs US 275 million bucks PER DAY, and gets us NOTHING, is PORK!!


PS- the Big Dig in Boston is the biggest bullshit Pork project of all time, even though it's money better spent than in Iraq, it is the worst engineered shit ever.

My brother-in-law was sent back in pieces over months ot my his wife and 2 young kids...he was in the North Tower when those bastards hit it.

I'd say the FACT that we have not had an attack on our soil since 9/11 is not NOTHING!

We're keeping them busy over there...at least some of them and I say let's FINISH THE JOB!

[Rockindeano]

Please do not even entertain the notion of going after me as a non patriot. I gave 4 years of my life to Desert Storm, I have been shot at and I have shot at someone else.

No self respecting citizen of these United states would ever criticize a soldier for doing his or her job, following intructions and carrying them out. However, War is Hell, and your friend gave the ultimate sacrifice, however, I must ask you....was it worth it? Was it worth him giving his life for this? For what?

This whole idea linking Iraq with our security is nonsecial. Iraq was never or would never ever be, a threat to the United States. Iraq is easy, or should have been easy. Somalia, North Korea, and Iran are the complicated states. The reason we went to Iraq is nothing what the Administration has sdaid it is. The reason we went there was for quick political gain for Shrub, and an "easy war" to win. Too bad we didn't have a plan, an exit plan and some fucking brains about doing it right. It's all good though, because the president wears a Flag lapel, and his daughters are safe. What does he care what soldiers perish? He could give two shits about any fallen soldiers.

And coincidentally, the world is much more UNSAFE now than it was 5 years ago.

[Tomulator]

Please do not even entertain the notion of going after me as a non patriot. I gave 4 years of my life to Desert Storm, I have been shot at and I have shot at someone else.

No self respecting citizen of these United states would ever criticize a soldier for doing his or her job, following intructions and carrying them out. However, War is Hell, and your friend gave the ultimate sacrifice, however, I must ask you....was it worth it? Was it worth him giving his life for this? For what?

This whole idea linking Iraq with our security is nonsecial. Iraq was never or would never ever be, a threat to the United States. Iraq is easy, or should have been easy. Somalia, North Korea, and Iran are the complicated states. The reason we went to Iraq is nothing what the Administration has sdaid it is. The reason we went there was for quick political gain for Shrub, and an "easy war" to win. Too bad we didn't have a plan, an exit plan and some fucking brains about doing it right. It's all good though, because the president wears a Flag lapel, and his daughters are safe. What does he care what soldiers perish? He could give two shits about any fallen soldiers.

And coincidentally, the world is much more UNSAFE now than it was 5 years ago.

Deano,

Not sure if you are talking to me or not...but my bro-in-law was in the North Tower on 9/11 and was killed. He did not serve in Iraq.

Now, rather than argue every single point you make above, and believe me I could, I will simply state that the country Iraq is only a "battleground" in the larger "War on Terrorism" and yes, Al Queda is there (who cares if they were there before we got there...they are there NOW) and we should continue to fight them. Oh, and btw, we didn't go into Iraq to get revenge for 9/11, we went there to potentially stop another 9/11 from happening!

We are SO MUCH SAFER now than we were pre-9/11. Not safe enough...but safer for sure!

Never questioned your patriotism. Don't put words in my mouth. Thank you for serving this GREAT country!