Looks like Boston and Styx?

[RumTumJM]

Does anyone know if the tour will be Boston/Styx or Boston/Styx/? ?

[venomnation]

This is kinda off-topic, but I think Queen made a mistake when they 'reformed' by using Paul Rodgers as the vocalist. He simply didn't have the range that ol' Freddie had. Queen should have tried to get that guy from The Darkness to sing in Freddie's place...if anyone has ever heard that band, you would agree!

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I hav enot read all the posts, but I'm going to chime in here. being, in my own opinion, one of the few Queen experts on the board at this moment. It would sound to me that you're under the impression they tried to "replace" freddie mercury. They, as a group, have vehemently denied this. They have said numerous times that they are not reforming "queen" - moreso two of the founding members going out and doing something with the "Queen Catalog" - and even THEY were hesitant to use the name....but to put all three names on the bill is too much.... Paul Rodgers said it many times....."I am not Freddie Mercury, I am not trying to BE freddie mercury, and there will only ever BE one freddie mercury". I saw them on that tour. I own the bootlegs. I own the live recordings. That was not "paul rodgers trying to be freddie mercury". That was "Paul Rodgers singing queen songs with two of the three remaining members of Queen.

I'm not knockin your opinion...just want to clarify what the band themselves has said is/was their intent.

And the new studio track from them, if you haven't heard it....kicks some serious ass...it's got the queen "vibe" all over it...

[Grotelul]

I've made a lot of jokes about Lawrence because I really don't like him as a singer. I don't even like his solo stuff. I wuoldn't even like him if he never was a part of this whole bit we call Styx.

While to many it's a matter of opinion about why Dennis is not in Styx anymore..in all seriousness..I honestly just have never understood why it was Lawrence who was brought in. OK..fine..the guy can play keys, can twirl, jump and is a super nice guy. Fine..they for sure found someone who doesn't sound like Dennis..but with how great Dennis' voice is..I would think they would have at least found someone with a better singing voice.
For those who really support Lawrence..do you really, really think the dude can SING?

It never really hit me that the groups/artist that I continue to support are the one's who had people who could really sing. A lot of the one's I don't support anymore..have somewhat lost it.

My first time hearing Lawrence live was at the Rock To The Rescue show. Because I went there to support other artist..I told myself that even though I wasn't happy how the whole Dennis/Styx thing went down..I would be open minded.

Certain parts of the show..Tommy would come out with his guitar and do certain songs. Some people would come and join him. Jack came out to do High Enough. At one point Lawrence came out and joined. All I could do was cringe.. it really was bad.

The person who came with me hadn't heard Lawrence before..but had heard Dennis' Styx songs. When Styx came out and Lawrence did Dennis' Styx songs..the person who was with me looked like they were about to either laugh or vomit.

Putting all jokes aside and what REALLY happened that I will believe from the source.. Lawrence really cannot sing that well and just doesn't sing Dennis' songs well. I have heard regular joes SING Dennis' Styx songs better. Not saying they have to SOUND like Dennis..but at least carry a tune.

What to I judge being able to sing or still sing on? People like RIP-Brad Delp, DDY, Michael Sweet, Ann Wilson, Tommy Shaw-best sitting on a stool with a accoustic guitar when feeling well, Steve Perry and Jimi Jamison-of yesteryears. Those are just some. So..as I mention some in their prime..let me ask this so to prove I can cut him a break.
Has Lawrence always sounded like this? What gets me is some are saying he sounds better than ever.

Sometimes when we have someone taking the place of a lead singer who really had it..we cut them a break because we wonder how would the original person sound if they came back. Well in the Dennis/Lawrence case..we know because we hear Dennis singing the classic Styx tunes all the time. With Steve Perry..we just don't know. Brad Delp still sounded fantastic..as does Michael Sweet and Ann Wilson.

With all these groups getting back together..practically everybody..lol..we are getting a true taste of who still has it and who lost it..and reminded who never really had it..damn..there are so many who have been the lead singer who just cannot sing. I mean really SING. Carry a tune.

Not just because I am a huge fan of Boston and Stryper..but this whole thing is really just brilliant and I am completely geeked over it. If there was ever a time to use the word UNREAL..now is the time. Still pinching myself.

Again I ask..for those who support Lawrence..do you really, really think the guy can really sing? Can he really carry a tune?

I hold my own opinion on what happened with Styx/Dennis so keep that in mind as I say this so this doesn't turn into another who did what to who..even if Dennis had been out on his own terms and he was ok with everything..I still wouldn't like Lawrence singing and think he was a good choice as far as the singing of Dennis' songs. Fine..he's a great guy and can play the keys..but that's not enough when we are talking about needed someone to cover the Dennis' classic Styx songs.

I would not call myself a supporter of Gowan but more a supporter of the band as a whole. Does Gowan have a voice for DDY songs? In most cases no but then again he sings so few of them it doesn't really bother me. When he sings his songs, it's fine..not a great vocalist but not outright stinkola.

Some don't like the way Dennis currently sings rock tunes such as The Grand Illusion. I am one of them but he has a great voice..it's just that it's taylor made for ballads and broadway tunes instead of rock songs.

[yogi]

Froy, you have GOT to give it a rest.

Paul Rodgers sounds NOTHING like Freddy yet YOU loved the show. The band members of Queen found someone they liked and went out and toured. They decided NOT to do a Freddie clone( unlike Journey ) and many of their fans loved it.

Back in 1999 JY, Tommy, Chuck & Glen pretty much decided the same thing. They found someone that THEY liked and they went out and toured. Some fans LOVED it others DIDNT.

Still 10 years later they are going strong and there is a market for them.

The funny thing is about 10 years ago Dennis himself did a famous interview where he compared what Styx did to bringing in Rod Stewert to sing lead for Aerosmith.

He(Dennis) said something like 'would they still be good??... of course they would, but would they still be Aerosmith??.. no they wouldnt.'

I could not agree with Dennis more. His take on the situation was dead on correct.

Shit I like Gowan. He gives a Rush sound to DDY's tunes.

As for Dennis, he's hopefully about to release the US version of one of the greatest Styx CD's they( Styx) has ever done. One Hundred Years From Now is a masterpiece. If Tim and Dennis play their cards right it will hit big here. The Black Crows hit big this week. Dennis will do the same. Hunchback is coming back out.


It's ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL good!!!!!!!

[classicstyxfan]

Yogi,

If Froy were to stop his anti-gowan crusade would it be a good thing ????

yes BUT

Would it still be Froy ???????

[froy]

Froy, you have GOT to give it a rest.

Paul Rodgers sounds NOTHING like Freddy yet YOU loved the show.

If Gowan joined Queen I would not even go to the show and neither would anyone else
Speaking of giving it a rest don't ya think you should be telling that to the current Styx band
Freddy died Dennis was sandbagged big difference.

Back in 1999 JY, Tommy, Chuck & Glen pretty much decided the same thing. They found someone that THEY liked and they went out and toured. Some fans LOVED it others DIDNT.

Nobody did period.

Still 10 years later they are going strong and there is a market for them.

Yea 500 people playing bars
Great market

Shit I like Gowan. He gives a Rush sound to DDY's tunes.

Yea a Rush to the exits




It's ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL good!!!!!!!

[froy]

Max Bacon, the guy from GTR, would have made a much better Dennis sound alike..but can he play the keys?

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Good one..
I agree

[stabbim]

Back in 1999 JY, Tommy, Chuck & Glen pretty much decided the same thing. They found someone that THEY liked and they went out and toured. Some fans LOVED it others DIDNT.

Nobody did period.

That's true. It was mostly question marks for the first few months, then many years of jousting exclamation points.

These days I tend to opt for the ellipses....

[froy]

Back in 1999 JY, Tommy, Chuck & Glen pretty much decided the same thing. They found someone that THEY liked and they went out and toured. Some fans LOVED it others DIDNT.

Nobody did period.

That's true. It was mostly question marks for the first few months, then many years of jousting exclamation points.

These days I tend to opt for the ellipses....

That's nice

[MtlLady]

Larry's voice is alright, and "A Criminal Mind" is a pretty good song but i've seen Styx with Larry a few times and it's just not my cup of tea

Robin

Styx with Larry is so so, but Larry singing Criminal Mind with Styx is very memorable - they really added much to that song. It was impressive. But yes, Larry is just filling in the gaps, as much as I hate to say something negative about a fellow Canadian ...

Amanda

[gr8dane]

Larry's voice is alright, and "A Criminal Mind" is a pretty good song but i've seen Styx with Larry a few times and it's just not my cup of tea

Robin

Styx with Larry is so so, but Larry singing Criminal Mind with Styx is very memorable - they really added much to that song. It was impressive. But yes, Larry is just filling in the gaps, as much as I hate to say something negative about a fellow Canadian ...

Amanda

I don't think that is negative.I bet you Larry loves his job.
Though I think they should now pick another of his songs.

[elmotano]

Larry's voice is alright, and "A Criminal Mind" is a pretty good song but i've seen Styx with Larry a few times and it's just not my cup of tea

Robin

Styx with Larry is so so, but Larry singing Criminal Mind with Styx is very memorable - they really added much to that song. It was impressive. But yes, Larry is just filling in the gaps, as much as I hate to say something negative about a fellow Canadian ...

Amanda

I don't think that is negative.I bet you Larry loves his job.
Though I think they should now pick another of his songs.

I agree it would be great if they let him do another song. I don't see that happening as many people that go to the shows are not diehard fans and want to hear the hits. With that in mind, as I have posted before, I can't tell you how many times these non diehard fans comment on how "Dennis still sounds great" only to be told that's not Dennis, where their response is usually "really?" I guess they really are there to see a great show and not nitpick.

[froy]

I can't tell you how many times these non diehard fans comment on how "Dennis still sounds great" only to be told that's not Dennis, where their response is usually "really?"

Shows just how clueless current Styx fans are.

[elmotano]

I can't tell you how many times these non diehard fans comment on how "Dennis still sounds great" only to be told that's not Dennis, where their response is usually "really?"

Shows just how clueless current Styx fans are.

I just think it shows that out in the real world, it doesn't matter a whole lot at this point. Too bad you can't look at the positives... Dennis doing shows his way.... Hunchback is back on track..... and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever. But again, I know, this is just not good enough because you will always need something to bitch about.

[froy]

I can't tell you how many times these non diehard fans comment on how "Dennis still sounds great" only to be told that's not Dennis, where their response is usually "really?"

Shows just how clueless current Styx fans are.

I just think it shows that out in the real world, it doesn't matter a whole lot at this point.

In your real world maybe
But in my world Styx has been destroyed.
Followers like you have a few beers and run to see Blue Collar Man.

Too bad you can't look at the positives...

In the STYX world its all negative

Dennis doing shows his way.... Hunchback is back on track.....

His way would be to get his band back.
And not watch Gowan make an ass out of himself.

and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever.

Yea 500 a year

[elmotano]

I can't tell you how many times these non diehard fans comment on how "Dennis still sounds great" only to be told that's not Dennis, where their response is usually "really?"

Shows just how clueless current Styx fans are.

I just think it shows that out in the real world, it doesn't matter a whole lot at this point.

In your real world maybe
But in my world Styx has been destroyed.
Followers like you have a few beers and run to see Blue Collar Man.

Too bad you can't look at the positives...

In the STYX world its all negative

Dennis doing shows his way.... Hunchback is back on track.....

His way would be to get his band back.
And not watch Gowan make an ass out of himself.

and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever.

Yea 500 a year

and this is bad because Dennis doesn't like doing more than 30 or 40 shows a year?

[froy]

and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever.

Yea 500 a year

and this is bad because Dennis doesn't like doing more than 30 or 40 shows a year?[/quote][/quote]

So what ?
30 to 40 shows a year is fine for a man his age

Look at most bands they tour just about the same amount of dates

Only cash poor Styx needs to run around for 10 years and burn it out

[chowhall]

and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever.

Yea 500 a year

and this is bad because Dennis doesn't like doing more than 30 or 40 shows a year?

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So what ?
30 to 40 shows a year is fine for a man his age

Look at most bands they tour just about the same amount of dates

Only cash poor Styx needs to run around for 10 years and burn it out[/quote]

Yawn, are you still here?

[sniper16]

Does anyone know if the tour will be Boston/Styx or Boston/Styx/? ?

boston has tour by them selves for a few years now and play about 2hours so i dont believe they would do a triple bill
they were supposed to tour with reo last year, so an co headline band would be expected.

[elmotano]

and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever.

Yea 500 a year

and this is bad because Dennis doesn't like doing more than 30 or 40 shows a year?

So what ?
30 to 40 shows a year is fine for a man his age

Look at most bands they tour just about the same amount of dates

Only cash poor Styx needs to run around for 10 years and burn it out[/quote]



Yawn, are you still here?[/quote]

There is nothing wrong with 30 or 40 shows, it just limits where you can be seen performing. How many times a year do you get to see DDY? Being in NYC I am lucky if it's every other year. With Styx, I can see them every year as they do plenty of shows. Let's face it these guys aren't getting any younger, so I guess you will be happy when they are all retired. Many of us, on the other hand enjoy seeing the shows. But, what am I thinking it is all about you and froy and rajah......the bin Laden's of the styx world.

[brywool]

Yeah..but at least Tom got someone who can f'n sing.. Unreal voice. This dude has a set of pipes. My favorite all time singer next to Dennis. One of my fav groups too.
Damn..Michael singing some of my fav all time songs. SWEET! No pun intended.
If you only know Michael from the old Stryper days then keep the remarks to what you know. The dude can sing/rock and the glam/bumble days are gone. Have been for years.

I agree with you Michael has an awesome voice, that is why I am so excited about this Boston tour. I wonder if they will work a couple of Stryper songs into the set.

Michael would sound good singing DeYoung's tunes.

[Blue Falcon]

Does anyone know if the tour will be Boston/Styx or Boston/Styx/? ?

boston has tour by them selves for a few years now and play about 2hours so i dont believe they would do a triple bill
they were supposed to tour with reo last year, so an co headline band would be expected.

If that's the bill, here how it will go:

Styx opens, play 25 minutes:
Renegade
Blue Collar Man
Miss America
Some Song After 1999 That I Can't Remember
Crystal Ball
Come Sail Aw---(cut short due to time restraints)

REO is second, plays 40 minutes (including 18 minutes of Kevin Cronin talking)

Boston plays two hour set

[elmotano]

Does anyone know if the tour will be Boston/Styx or Boston/Styx/? ?

boston has tour by them selves for a few years now and play about 2hours so i dont believe they would do a triple bill
they were supposed to tour with reo last year, so an co headline band would be expected.

If that's the bill, here how it will go:

Styx opens, play 25 minutes:
Renegade
Blue Collar Man
Miss America
Some Song After 1999 That I Can't Remember
Crystal Ball
Come Sail Aw---(cut short due to time restraints)

REO is second, plays 40 minutes (including 18 minutes of Kevin Cronin talking)

Boston plays two hour set

welcome back blue pigeon....wish I could say you were missed.

[Toph]

and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever.

Yea 500 a year

and this is bad because Dennis doesn't like doing more than 30 or 40 shows a year?

So what ?
30 to 40 shows a year is fine for a man his age

Look at most bands they tour just about the same amount of dates

Only cash poor Styx needs to run around for 10 years and burn it out

Yawn, are you still here?[/quote]

There is nothing wrong with 30 or 40 shows, it just limits where you can be seen performing. How many times a year do you get to see DDY? Being in NYC I am lucky if it's every other year. With Styx, I can see them every year as they do plenty of shows. Let's face it these guys aren't getting any younger, so I guess you will be happy when they are all retired. Many of us, on the other hand enjoy seeing the shows. But, what am I thinking it is all about you and froy and rajah......the bin Laden's of the styx world. [/quote]

I'm sorry and I am new here, but I think equating chow and froy and rajah (or anyone who hasn't killed thousands of people) with Osama Bin Laden is downright disgusting.

[Zan]

I'm sorry and I am new here, but I think equating chow and froy and rajah (or anyone who hasn't killed thousands of people) with Osama Bin Laden is downright disgusting.

Well, Chow, anyway.

[Higgy]

I'm sorry and I am new here, but I think equating chow and froy and rajah (or anyone who hasn't killed thousands of people) with Osama Bin Laden is downright disgusting.

Don't worry Toph, this is the place where you can compare Dennis Deyoung to Hitler but don't you DARE say JY had bad lyrics or Gowan had a bad voice!

[styxfanNH]

I'm sorry and I am new here, but I think equating chow and froy and rajah (or anyone who hasn't killed thousands of people) with Osama Bin Laden is downright disgusting.

Don't worry Toph, this is the place where you can compare Dennis Deyoung to Hitler but don't you DARE say JY had bad lyrics or Gowan had a bad voice!

Don't kid yourself, there are supporters of both sides that refuse to give the others credit. There's planty of bias to go around...

[froy]

oh wow... is it "bash larry" day again?


::::checks calendar::::

Yep
It seems he just does not get it
Larry move along

[chowhall]

I'm sorry and I am new here, but I think equating chow and froy and rajah (or anyone who hasn't killed thousands of people) with Osama Bin Laden is downright disgusting.

Well, Chow, anyway.

Please equate me and give me the location of OBL. Some of my old friends would love to know.

[elmotano]

and for the rest of us, that are styx fans,past and present, we get to see as many shows as ever.

Yea 500 a year

and this is bad because Dennis doesn't like doing more than 30 or 40 shows a year?

So what ?
30 to 40 shows a year is fine for a man his age

Look at most bands they tour just about the same amount of dates

Only cash poor Styx needs to run around for 10 years and burn it out

Yawn, are you still here?

There is nothing wrong with 30 or 40 shows, it just limits where you can be seen performing. How many times a year do you get to see DDY? Being in NYC I am lucky if it's every other year. With Styx, I can see them every year as they do plenty of shows. Let's face it these guys aren't getting any younger, so I guess you will be happy when they are all retired. Many of us, on the other hand enjoy seeing the shows. But, what am I thinking it is all about you and froy and rajah......the bin Laden's of the styx world. [/quote]

I'm sorry and I am new here, but I think equating chow and froy and rajah (or anyone who hasn't killed thousands of people) with Osama Bin Laden is downright disgusting.[/quote]

Sorry you feel that way, I just meant it as an analogy. But of course you would be on your high horse no matter the anaology.
Elmotano ( from NYC)