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youkeepmewaiting wrote:Yes us Brits do use some dopey words, it's called the "English Language". I think Americans should start using it correctly
Exactly! 12 grand for a ring? Ridiculous! If his girlfriend required him to spend that much on a stupid ring,..and now not talking to him since he lost it?...Losing the ring doesn't make him an idiot..not being able to see that she's high maintenance , will continue to want unneccesary extravagances and is not in it for the right reasons..he should see that and is better off without her. If she loved him right, she wouldn't want a ring that cost that much...or even care too much about one anyway..the right girl would have laughed at his flubup and would still be marrying him, ring or no ring.jrnychick wrote:I heard about this last week. What an idiot. I think he's an even bigger idiot for blowing $12k on a ring.
Blueskies wrote:Exactly! 12 grand for a ring? Ridiculous! If his girlfriend required him to spend that much on a stupid ring,..and now not talking to him since he lost it?...Losing the ring doesn't make him an idiot..not being able to see that she's high maintenance , will continue to want unneccesary extravagances and is not in it for the right reasons..he should see that and is better off without her. If she loved him right, she wouldn't want a ring that cost that much...or even care too much about one anyway..the right girl would have laughed at his flubup and would still be marrying him, ring or no ring.jrnychick wrote:I heard about this last week. What an idiot. I think he's an even bigger idiot for blowing $12k on a ring.
Enigma869 wrote:What a dope. The guy says he felt like a real "plonker", whatever the hell that means. These damn Brits use the dopiest words I've ever heard in my life!
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John from Boston

Marriage should not be looked at and entered into as an "investment"..and to "get something"...or that anyone is owed anything....true love doesn't have to be purchased. Two people should come together because they love each other and want to spend their time in life together....not out of any needs , financially or otherwise...or expectations of the other fullfiling them.....doesn't work out well that way. Does she really love the man?..or is it just love of the idea of marriage and security?...sounds like it to me...sounds like love for the ring and it's worth and not for the man and his.. besides his wallet...not for his worth of heart.Michigan Girl wrote:Blueskies wrote:Exactly! 12 grand for a ring? Ridiculous! If his girlfriend required him to spend that much on a stupid ring,..and now not talking to him since he lost it?...Losing the ring doesn't make him an idiot..not being able to see that she's high maintenance , will continue to want unneccesary extravagances and is not in it for the right reasons..he should see that and is better off without her. If she loved him right, she wouldn't want a ring that cost that much...or even care too much about one anyway..the right girl would have laughed at his flubup and would still be marrying him, ring or no ring.jrnychick wrote:I heard about this last week. What an idiot. I think he's an even bigger idiot for blowing $12k on a ring.
Awww that is such a sweet, romantic way of looking at it...however, a good karat runs 10 to 15 grand these days...He should spend two to three months salary on the engagement ring...just think of all the good stuff HE is getting for his investment!!!
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:The term plonker started out as a reference to someone who was forever drunk on cheap wine (cheap wine is nicknamed plonk) this person was usualy a homeless person, or poor person. Today the term plonker is a very light hearted insult.
Better and more insulting British words for a moron (I learned all the good stuff when I moved to England) include : chump , thicko , knobhead , twat , fuckwit, pillock, complete arse.

Enigma869 wrote:Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:The term plonker started out as a reference to someone who was forever drunk on cheap wine (cheap wine is nicknamed plonk) this person was usualy a homeless person, or poor person. Today the term plonker is a very light hearted insult.
Better and more insulting British words for a moron (I learned all the good stuff when I moved to England) include : chump , thicko , knobhead , twat , fuckwit, pillock, complete arse.
And now I just learn that the Brits refer to "French Toast" as "Poor Knights Of Windsor". You guys call that "English"???? Oy Vey![]()
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John from Boston
Blueskies wrote:Marriage should not be looked at and entered into as an "investment"..and to "get something"...or that anyone is owed anything....true love doesn't have to be purchased. Two people should come together because they love each other and want to spend their time in life together....not out of any needs , financially or otherwise...or expectations of the other fullfiling them.....doesn't work out well that way. Does she really love the man?..or is it just love of the idea of marriage and security?...sounds like it to me...sounds like love for the ring and it's worth and not for the man and his.. besides his wallet...not for his worth of heart.Michigan Girl wrote:Blueskies wrote:Exactly! 12 grand for a ring? Ridiculous! If his girlfriend required him to spend that much on a stupid ring,..and now not talking to him since he lost it?...Losing the ring doesn't make him an idiot..not being able to see that she's high maintenance , will continue to want unneccesary extravagances and is not in it for the right reasons..he should see that and is better off without her. If she loved him right, she wouldn't want a ring that cost that much...or even care too much about one anyway..the right girl would have laughed at his flubup and would still be marrying him, ring or no ring.jrnychick wrote:I heard about this last week. What an idiot. I think he's an even bigger idiot for blowing $12k on a ring.
Awww that is such a sweet, romantic way of looking at it...however, a good karat runs 10 to 15 grand these days...He should spend two to three months salary on the engagement ring...just think of all the good stuff HE is getting for his investment!!!
Rick wrote:What do they call French Fries
Loneman1 wrote:Rick wrote:What do they call French Fries
I believe they call them chips, as in "fish and chips."
See now your turning it around..first you were referring to his investment monatarily so thats what I commented on.....now your talking about a whole different kind of investment.....time, commitment, patience, trust, understanding, forgiveness, supportiveness, etc., etc...dealing with the ordinary day to day.and in times of stress and strife..the good times and the bad..loving for and despite flaws as well as strengths..theres no disagreement with that. That all comes with the deep love and care you feel for the other..makes you want to do all you can for them and to see them happy.....so it's not more than love after all...it all comes from love...so thats what I meant..if the love is right from the start then it will grow and overcome all obstacles and challenges put before it....if it's not then it will fail and break apart....especially if someone goes in with their mind foremost on the monatary and material worth of one another instead of the worth of their heart, mind and spirit. In the long run things mean nothing....the love that is shared is all that matters in the end..what will be taken and what will be left behind....the older one gets the more this is realized..and hey, I'm an artist....idealistic, passionate and a hopeless romantic...so cut me some slack if you think I view things thru rose colored glasses..I see the beauty in the depth of real love from the heart and felt in the soul...and believe thats what we should feel, have and share in a marriage, a relationship, a family....but thats just me.Michigan Girl wrote:Blueskies wrote:Marriage should not be looked at and entered into as an "investment"..and to "get something"...or that anyone is owed anything....true love doesn't have to be purchased. Two people should come together because they love each other and want to spend their time in life together....not out of any needs , financially or otherwise...or expectations of the other fullfiling them.....doesn't work out well that way. Does she really love the man?..or is it just love of the idea of marriage and security?...sounds like it to me...sounds like love for the ring and it's worth and not for the man and his.. besides his wallet...not for his worth of heart.Michigan Girl wrote:Blueskies wrote:Exactly! 12 grand for a ring? Ridiculous! If his girlfriend required him to spend that much on a stupid ring,..and now not talking to him since he lost it?...Losing the ring doesn't make him an idiot..not being able to see that she's high maintenance , will continue to want unneccesary extravagances and is not in it for the right reasons..he should see that and is better off without her. If she loved him right, she wouldn't want a ring that cost that much...or even care too much about one anyway..the right girl would have laughed at his flubup and would still be marrying him, ring or no ring.jrnychick wrote:I heard about this last week. What an idiot. I think he's an even bigger idiot for blowing $12k on a ring.
Awww that is such a sweet, romantic way of looking at it...however, a good karat runs 10 to 15 grand these days...He should spend two to three months salary on the engagement ring...just think of all the good stuff HE is getting for his investment!!!
I was kinda joking about the whole ring thing...but since this came up
I disagree...marriage is a HUGE investment....just like having children, it is unknown territory for any first timer and costly, Although LOVE is the main ingredient, marriage requires much MORE than LOVE...as beautiful as that WOULD be!!!
Blueskies wrote:See now your turning it around..first you were referring to his investment monatarily so thats what I commented on.....now your talking about a whole different kind of investment.....time, commitment, patience, trust, understanding, forgiveness, supportiveness, etc., etc...dealing with the ordinary day to day.and in times of stress and strife..the good times and the bad..loving for and despite flaws as well as strengths..theres no disagreement with that. That all comes with the deep love and care you feel for the other..makes you want to do all you can for them and to see them happy.....so it's not more than love after all...it all comes from love...so thats what I meant..if the love is right from the start then it will grow and overcome all obstacles and challenges put before it....if it's not then it will fail and break apart....especially if someone goes in with their mind foremost on the monatary and material worth of one another instead of the worth of their heart, mind and spirit. In the long run things mean nothing....the love that is shared is all that matters in the end..what will be taken and what will be left behind....the older one gets the more this is realized..and hey, I'm an artist....idealistic, passionate and a hopeless romantic...so cut me some slack if you think I view things thru rose colored glasses..I see the beauty in the depth of real love from the heart and felt in the soul...and believe thats what we should feel, have and share in a marriage, a relationship, a family....but thats just me.Michigan Girl wrote:Blueskies wrote:Marriage should not be looked at and entered into as an "investment"..and to "get something"...or that anyone is owed anything....true love doesn't have to be purchased. Two people should come together because they love each other and want to spend their time in life together....not out of any needs , financially or otherwise...or expectations of the other fullfiling them.....doesn't work out well that way. Does she really love the man?..or is it just love of the idea of marriage and security?...sounds like it to me...sounds like love for the ring and it's worth and not for the man and his.. besides his wallet...not for his worth of heart.Michigan Girl wrote:Blueskies wrote:Exactly! 12 grand for a ring? Ridiculous! If his girlfriend required him to spend that much on a stupid ring,..and now not talking to him since he lost it?...Losing the ring doesn't make him an idiot..not being able to see that she's high maintenance , will continue to want unneccesary extravagances and is not in it for the right reasons..he should see that and is better off without her. If she loved him right, she wouldn't want a ring that cost that much...or even care too much about one anyway..the right girl would have laughed at his flubup and would still be marrying him, ring or no ring.jrnychick wrote:I heard about this last week. What an idiot. I think he's an even bigger idiot for blowing $12k on a ring.
Awww that is such a sweet, romantic way of looking at it...however, a good karat runs 10 to 15 grand these days...He should spend two to three months salary on the engagement ring...just think of all the good stuff HE is getting for his investment!!!
I was kinda joking about the whole ring thing...but since this came up
I disagree...marriage is a HUGE investment....just like having children, it is unknown territory for any first timer and costly, Although LOVE is the main ingredient, marriage requires much MORE than LOVE...as beautiful as that WOULD be!!!![]()
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