Now it can be told!

[Carlitto H@kk]

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

That opens up the question as to whether or not it was an audition at all....Which I'm not going to get into here.

However, making life changing decisions like that isn't the sort of thing that's done over the course of the 5 weeks or whatever between the first call I got to my conversation advising them to look elsewhere...

These aren't the sorts of things I was thinking about in my original post though. Maybe questions best left between the band and myself?

Damn Jeremey!
Your answers here just drum up 100 more freakin' questions!!!
It's like watching an episode of Lost!

[Marabelle]

Jeremey continue to make those choices which are the most benefical to you and your loved ones. Timing is important. We don't always do what others think is right but we do what we believe is the right thing to do. This is something it seems you have done some serious soul searching alone and together with your wife weighing the pros and the cons. Some times you just know it. Your life must be at a place where you feel it's time to take the detour and find out if you have what it takes to be a musician and try it out on the road with the band. I continue to pray for your success and will send you off with many heartfelt wishes that you fulfill your creative longings. Take care. Good luck! and, best wishes to you and your family.

[StevePerryHair]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

[AlteredDNA]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

It probably has more to do with WHO asked rather than WHAT was asked...

[StevePerryHair]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

It probably has more to do with WHO asked rather than WHAT was asked...

And why should that matter

[Saint John]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

It probably has more to do with WHO asked rather than WHAT was asked...

And why should that matter

Cuz people know if they attack you they're gonna have to deal with ME. And no one wants my persistent, pain in the ass self on their tail.

[nolippin]

It shouldn't matter, but it seems to to some here.

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

It probably has more to do with WHO asked rather than WHAT was asked...

And why should that matter

[piecesofeight]

Jeremey..you already know this..and this is what you are doing/know..but all that matters is that you are doing what you know what is right for you and your family..kudos to you for not only living out a dream..but doing it on your terms..which allow you to to do what you feel is best for the fam..

[AlteredDNA]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

It probably has more to do with WHO asked rather than WHAT was asked...

And why should that matter

I'm not saying it should, but a poster's body of work can / will no doubt affect the perception of any new posts they make, regardless of intent. There's an awful lot of "reading between the lines" that goes on here (and on most boards, I would guess)...

[StevePerryHair]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

It probably has more to do with WHO asked rather than WHAT was asked...

And why should that matter

I'm not saying it should, but a poster's body of work can / will no doubt affect the perception of any new posts they make, regardless of intent. There's an awful lot of "reading between the lines" that goes on here (and on most boards, I would guess)...

Well we ALL know what a big trouble maker Yulog is

[Carlitto H@kk]

Well we ALL know what a big trouble maker Yulog is

No kidding!
Fuck w/ LogJam and you
get Photoshopped in the
most embarrassing ways

[yulog]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

That opens up the question as to whether or not it was an audition at all....Which I'm not going to get into here.

However, making life changing decisions like that isn't the sort of thing that's done over the course of the 5 weeks or whatever between the first call I got to my conversation advising them to look elsewhere...

These aren't the sorts of things I was thinking about in my original post though. Maybe questions best left between the band and myself?

I would think just by the comments on rockline that you did go out to audition,(and the fact that you "advised them to look elsewhere" pretty much answers the question of whether you auditioned).

I don't know that i agree with your second statement,(i believe life changing decisions are almost always made on a timetable much shorter than 5 weeks) and i am guessing that Journey would of course expect your answer in a short period of time so that they could move on with their plans to start writing/ touring with a new singer.

As far as your last response, i may have taken your heading in the wrong way, obviously my question can be considered "none of my business" ,which is understandable. I was just curious if you felt you needed to prove to yourself that you could have been the "one" , even if your present family life wouldn't have really allowed for you to take the position.

[yulog]

Well we ALL know what a big trouble maker Yulog is

No kidding!
Fuck w/ LogJam and you
get Photoshopped in the
most embarrassing ways

[yulog]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator

It probably has more to do with WHO asked rather than WHAT was asked...

And why should that matter

I'm not saying it should, but a poster's body of work can / will no doubt affect the perception of any new posts they make, regardless of intent. There's an awful lot of "reading between the lines" that goes on here (and on most boards, I would guess)...

Well we ALL know what a big trouble maker Yulog is

[mistiejourney]

, so imagine kissing your first born child goodby at the age of 6 months, and then seeing them again when they were 18 months old.

you could have taken those kids on the road... ozzy did and his turned out just fine..

[coffee sputter]

[ScarabGator]

I got to thinking...

...was it not possible, in any way then, that Jeremey perhaps could've gotten his own tour bus for his wife and kid to come along on tour with him on? That way he couldn't miss out on much and always have his beloved at his side.

To purchase a decent quality coach you'd be looking at starting around $300,000 - Then what the hell would I do with it after the tour? The better option would be to rent, as discussed among certain members of Journey, which would cost about $150,000 for a summer, and about $75,000 to pay someone to drive it. But you don't take a 9 month old baby on the road anyway. Not even an option.

Jeremey, I going to ask a difficult question.

Im curious, if you knew you wouldn't have taken your newborn and wife on the road, and you didn't want to be away from them for any period of time, why even go to the audition(was it just to see if you could get the position? To prove to yourself that you were good enough?)

I'm confused about something i read above...Your baby is approx 9 months old and the pregnancy is approx 9 months, so you had 18 months where if they gave you the call you knew your baby was on its way or already here. Knowing Journey ,you had to know they were going to want to tour and tour hard ,which would keep you away from your family . Why go to an audition knowing you wouldn't leave your family for any length of time.(Its like going to an interview knowing you won't take the job offered)

Wow!! You asked that and you weren't attacked by a gator :P

Not yet anyway.......but dont count your chickens before they hatch...

[larryfromnextdoor]

dont count your chickens before they hatch...

"all that glitters , is not gold.."

maybe "they" didnt pass jeremeys audtion!




"sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason"-jerry seinfeld

[Tito]

A NOTE FOR THE RECORD - FOR ALL TO READ -

Sadly as predicted I am getting crap thrown at me on another forum for apparently limiting debate on this forum - in particular within this topic.

NO SO! I DID NOT squash this topic or discussion - I merely removed the abusive posts between two posters that contained language I considered to be over the top.
That Jeremey decided not to respond to Beshad's questions is NOT my fault and I should not have shit hung on me because of this.

Why is it that I get fucked over no matter what I do?????????

I still support you. You are just like Neal and Cain, you've done nothing wrong.

[Michigan Girl]

[stevew2]

A NOTE FOR THE RECORD - FOR ALL TO READ -

Sadly as predicted I am getting crap thrown at me on another forum for apparently limiting debate on this forum - in particular within this topic.

NO SO! I DID NOT squash this topic or discussion - I merely removed the abusive posts between two posters that contained language I considered to be over the top.
That Jeremey decided not to respond to Beshad's questions is NOT my fault and I should not have shit hung on me because of this.

Why is it that I get fucked over no matter what I do?????????

I still support you. You are just like Neal and Cain, you've done nothing wrong.

Not a good comparison

[Rick]

A NOTE FOR THE RECORD - FOR ALL TO READ -

Sadly as predicted I am getting crap thrown at me on another forum for apparently limiting debate on this forum - in particular within this topic.

NO SO! I DID NOT squash this topic or discussion - I merely removed the abusive posts between two posters that contained language I considered to be over the top.
That Jeremey decided not to respond to Beshad's questions is NOT my fault and I should not have shit hung on me because of this.

Why is it that I get fucked over no matter what I do?????????

I still support you. You are just like Neal and Cain, you've done nothing wrong.

That's a worse slug in the gut than he already had!

[larryfromnextdoor]

A NOTE FOR THE RECORD - FOR ALL TO READ -

Sadly as predicted I am getting crap thrown at me on another forum for apparently limiting debate on this forum - in particular within this topic.

NO SO! I DID NOT squash this topic or discussion - I merely removed the abusive posts between two posters that contained language I considered to be over the top.
That Jeremey decided not to respond to Beshad's questions is NOT my fault and I should not have shit hung on me because of this.

Why is it that I get fucked over no matter what I do?????????

I still support you. You are just like Neal and Cain, you've done nothing wrong.

That's a worse slug in the gut than he already had!

...kick him... somebody kick him!! j/k

[Jeremey]

I would think just by the comments on rockline that you did go out to audition,(and the fact that you "advised them to look elsewhere" pretty much answers the question of whether you auditioned).

I don't know that i agree with your second statement,(i believe life changing decisions are almost always made on a timetable much shorter than 5 weeks) and i am guessing that Journey would of course expect your answer in a short period of time so that they could move on with their plans to start writing/ touring with a new singer.

As far as your last response, i may have taken your heading in the wrong way, obviously my question can be considered "none of my business" ,which is understandable. I was just curious if you felt you needed to prove to yourself that you could have been the "one" , even if your present family life wouldn't have really allowed for you to take the position.

I didn't hear the Rockline interview so I can't really comment on it, but I guess I'll just clarify by saying there wasn't an audition process per se. Journey, to my knowledge, wasn't looking at any other singers when I was brought out to CA. In fact, I was told by one member of Journey that a certain music mogul/manager could "lick his balls" if there was any problem bringing me on board. It all was very perfect and a good fit at the outset, and when I left CA it was a done deal - Through all of it though, I always said that I never pursued the job, they pursued me, and if it was meant to happen, it would happen in a very charmed and obvious way... obviously, though, there were some red flags on both sides that made things fall apart. Really nothing else to say about it...I've been through this a few different times, and I think/hope that most people "get it."

[larryfromnextdoor]

"lick his balls"

"get balls bronco","get balls"...

[slucero]

Yer gonna have to set up some rules... make sure everyone understands that they agree to them when they register and then enforce them. All it takes is one or two idiots who make posts "personal" by attacking the individual instead of the the post... and yer off to the races with flame wars....

Quoting rules all the time is going to kill what made this forum different from Generations/BT and will drive away many more of the current posters than it will keep. People LIKE being able to call names and speak candidly here. Which I don't mind either, even though I don't really do it myself.

Andrew, just run things the way you want to run them and don't get tied up in other people's disapproval. You just can't make everyone happy!

You know what Sarah.. you may be right... but its Andrew that gets shit on... so if Andrew wants a more hospitable decorum here, then that comes at a price.

What makes this different than BT/Generations, its simple.. Drew allows peeps to attack each other (and to some degree him). So this place "cycles", from ok for a short period of time.. to full on flame war.. and then Drew has to step in and ban people... thats the difference...

This forum will always cycle between calm and choas, as long as posters are allowed to personally attack each other, Drew or his mods.

Speaking candidly and cussing about a TOPIC is a lot different than cussing at or speaking candidly about a POSTER... when a thread goes from topical discussion to posters flinging personal attacks at each other... and has absolutely nothing to do with MR other than waste Drews' bandwidth... it's no longer relevant or necessary....

I've been here long enough to see when threads get stupid its because people are calling each other "fucking loons".. or "your full of shit"... if someone feels they need to do that then thats not really a discussion is it?

Drew asked... and your solution is to "simply leave things alone"....

and I'm not talking about quoting rules.. I'm talking about enforcing them...