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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:31 pm

Check it out :D
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Postby Zan » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:42 pm

Thanks for the heads up. Just bought it - have to give it a few listens. My first reaction to the 30 second sampler was that it has an early 90s/Damn Yankees sorta vibe to it. Not bad but not lighting my world on fire either. I'll see how I feel in a week. Most Styx-like music takes that long to settle with me. :)
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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:51 pm

Anyone want to guess which guitar solo belongs to JY? I think it’s pretty obvious.
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Postby classicstyxfan » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:55 pm

I bet it's the one that says " I hate Dennis" when played backwards !!!! :wink:
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Postby Ash » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:57 pm

It's not a bad song (listened to the 30 second snippet). It definitely sounds a little more REO speedwagon in terms of key and tempo than Styx, but that's not necessarily a bad thing either.
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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:33 am

classicstyxfan wrote:I bet it's the one that says " I hate Dennis" when played backwards !!!! :wink:


Yes! You win :lol:
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Postby KWH17 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:49 pm

I thought it was iffy at first, but I got used to it, and now it's like I can't stop listening to it! :lol:
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Postby Toph » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:14 am

KWH17 wrote:I thought it was iffy at first, but I got used to it, and now it's like I can't stop listening to it! :lol:


In other words, I guess you can't stop rockin'...
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Postby Abitaman » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:30 am

It will be next week before I will be able to get to Itune to listen and download. So do Kevin and Tommy share vocals or is it a fee for all with everyone pitching in.

I see this as a trend I do not like. More and more artist will get a way from the cd. I mean more and more music and movies are being downloaded. MP 3 player can play movies now. Kids love it. So artist will keep putting things up for download and skip the disk. Kids don't seem to care how they sound either. But most compressed music and movies do not look or sound as good as a cd or dvd. And it doesn't have to. Picture doesn't have to look great on a 3 inch screen. And those little ear buds are not a good quality head set or a home theater system.
Me I want the hard copy with the best sound and picture possible. But even Blue ray to me is over kill. More ways the companies try and get people to buy their older stuff in a high format, please!

OK I am off my soap box, i am glad to see artist putting out new stuff even if it just on music services. Cost them less money and wwe can get it cheaper.
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Postby KWH17 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:40 am

Abitaman wrote:It will be next week before I will be able to get to Itune to listen and download. So do Kevin and Tommy share vocals or is it a fee for all with everyone pitching in.

I see this as a trend I do not like. More and more artist will get a way from the cd. I mean more and more music and movies are being downloaded. MP 3 player can play movies now. Kids love it. So artist will keep putting things up for download and skip the disk. Kids don't seem to care how they sound either. But most compressed music and movies do not look or sound as good as a cd or dvd. And it doesn't have to. Picture doesn't have to look great on a 3 inch screen. And those little ear buds are not a good quality head set or a home theater system.
Me I want the hard copy with the best sound and picture possible. But even Blue ray to me is over kill. More ways the companies try and get people to buy their older stuff in a high format, please!

OK I am off my soap box, i am glad to see artist putting out new stuff even if it just on music services. Cost them less money and wwe can get it cheaper.


Yes they share vocals, and there is also a trade-off of guitar solos which is pretty cool.

Agreed on the whole Mp3 movement thing. To add to what you said, Kid's not only don't care about sound quality anymore, they also don't care about WHOLE albums anymore. It's all about just buying the single and maybe a few other songs off of an album. This is grossly unfair to the artist because they put the effort into making the song and it gets completely ignored. This is probably why Styx won't come out with a new album, because with the exception of a few songs it will be overlooked and not make them much money.

I've always belived the sum of an album is greater than just the individual songs [I also prefer the sound of Vinyl to modern tech.] but it seems like we're going back into the fifties where it's all about the single. Funny, new technology is making us regress! :lol:
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Postby Abitaman » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:56 am

KWH17 wrote:
Abitaman wrote:It will be next week before I will be able to get to Itune to listen and download. So do Kevin and Tommy share vocals or is it a fee for all with everyone pitching in.

I see this as a trend I do not like. More and more artist will get a way from the cd. I mean more and more music and movies are being downloaded. MP 3 player can play movies now. Kids love it. So artist will keep putting things up for download and skip the disk. Kids don't seem to care how they sound either. But most compressed music and movies do not look or sound as good as a cd or dvd. And it doesn't have to. Picture doesn't have to look great on a 3 inch screen. And those little ear buds are not a good quality head set or a home theater system.
Me I want the hard copy with the best sound and picture possible. But even Blue ray to me is over kill. More ways the companies try and get people to buy their older stuff in a high format, please!

OK I am off my soap box, i am glad to see artist putting out new stuff even if it just on music services. Cost them less money and wwe can get it cheaper.


Yes they share vocals, and there is also a trade-off of guitar solos which is pretty cool.


Agreed on the whole Mp3 movement thing. To add to what you said, Kid's not only don't care about sound quality anymore, they also don't care about WHOLE albums anymore. It's all about just buying the single and maybe a few other songs off of an album. This is grossly unfair to the artist because they put the effort into making the song and it gets completely ignored. This is probably why Styx won't come out with a new album, because with the exception of a few songs it will be overlooked and not make them much money.

I've always belived the sum of an album is greater than just the individual songs [I also prefer the sound of Vinyl to modern tech.] but it seems like we're going back into the fifties where it's all about the single. Funny, new technology is making us regress! :lol:


Agreed on all but the sound of vinyl. Sounds good the first listen or two. But I like the sound of cds. The problem is the tech. used to record. They use the same equipment with the same type of setings making all the music sound the same. They need to go back to the old way of recording and put that on cd.
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Postby StyxCollector » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:31 pm

Abitaman wrote:Agreed on all but the sound of vinyl. Sounds good the first listen or two. But I like the sound of cds. The problem is the tech. used to record. They use the same equipment with the same type of setings making all the music sound the same. They need to go back to the old way of recording and put that on cd.


Well, not quite. It's recorded, mixed, and arguably mastered as if it was going to CD, but instead of releasing it on a physical, they're converting it to a lossy MP3. So a better version exists. We may never hear it or get access to it.
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Postby Abitaman » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:04 pm

StyxCollector wrote:
Abitaman wrote:Agreed on all but the sound of vinyl. Sounds good the first listen or two. But I like the sound of cds. The problem is the tech. used to record. They use the same equipment with the same type of setings making all the music sound the same. They need to go back to the old way of recording and put that on cd.


Well, not quite. It's recorded, mixed, and arguably mastered as if it was going to CD, but instead of releasing it on a physical, they're converting it to a lossy MP3. So a better version exists. We may never hear it or get access to it.


Agree on that part. Everything on I tunes and what not are all cd quality before it comes to us. And today's kids, most anyway, don't know cd quality music. What I was getting at, the production is all digital, the recording is all digital, it takes the warmth from alot of the music. I miss that about Vinyl. Don't miss the background noise. That's why I like cds, but everything being digital now it all with saved settings at such, and a lot of it sounds the same. Back before digital you could record in a room and get something slightly different each time, just from the room or the chamber. Now its I don't like this so lets take from the song sample, or this is what we used for this artist lets put this sound to yours. Your just a little out of key here, or what ever, it can be fixed. WHY!!!!! I don't have a problem in post production if used wisely, but perfered a lot of the non digital instruments that used tubes instead.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:31 am

The move away from "albums" has been facilitated by the record labels releasing album full of crap and one single. The world got tired of being raped for $16 when there was only one good song on the CD. And THAT is why "illegal" downloading took hold and made music (essentially) free. I think it is a shame that people miss out on some great "albums" but I am not surprised at all. Keep the faith though, there are some great artists making "albums" and their fans "get it". All is not lost... However, in general, I think it makes more sense nowadays to release a single track every few weeks or so than it does an entire album. If groups/artists think one song at a time than the quality of each 'product' may just increase. And there is no reason why "we" cannot collect each individual song and then make a full "album".
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Postby Abitaman » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:43 am

jrnyman28 wrote:The move away from "albums" has been facilitated by the record labels releasing album full of crap and one single. The world got tired of being raped for $16 when there was only one good song on the CD. And THAT is why "illegal" downloading took hold and made music (essentially) free. I think it is a shame that people miss out on some great "albums" but I am not surprised at all. Keep the faith though, there are some great artists making "albums" and their fans "get it". All is not lost... However, in general, I think it makes more sense nowadays to release a single track every few weeks or so than it does an entire album. If groups/artists think one song at a time than the quality of each 'product' may just increase. And there is no reason why "we" cannot collect each individual song and then make a full "album".


That is what I do. Make a best of cd with jsut about every release. Keep the good, weed out the bad.
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Postby StyxCollector » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:16 am

jrnyman28 wrote:The move away from "albums" has been facilitated by the record labels releasing album full of crap and one single. The world got tired of being raped for $16 when there was only one good song on the CD. And THAT is why "illegal" downloading took hold and made music (essentially) free. I think it is a shame that people miss out on some great "albums" but I am not surprised at all. Keep the faith though, there are some great artists making "albums" and their fans "get it". All is not lost... However, in general, I think it makes more sense nowadays to release a single track every few weeks or so than it does an entire album. If groups/artists think one song at a time than the quality of each 'product' may just increase. And there is no reason why "we" cannot collect each individual song and then make a full "album".


I disagree here ... MP3 is the new cassette tape. The 80s were big on anti-piracy. In the UK on a lot of releases (I believe the DLIE Roboto-shaped single has it) had the picture of a tape with an X made of bones on top of it. Piracy became big business. That's why DAT got killed as a consumer media format because you could get bit perfect copies of CDs in a small tape format. DAT was still a big studio format for awhile (I still have some!), but the industry has - or had - a way of killing such things. I remember when they said that once they got rid of long boxes, CDs would get cheaper. Ha!

What they couldn't see coming was the explosion of computers and bandwidth. Add to that the popularity of the portable hard drive (and now flash) based players, and you've got a perfect shit storm.

Honestly. people have always felt entitled when it came to music - copying others stuff, yadda yadda. Taking the big boys out of it, at the end of the day, it does hurt the artist not to get paid for their work and I'll say it - intellectual property. That in a nutshell is the issue.

Piracy has always been here, it's just gotten easier to the point of people not caring anymore.
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Postby bugsymalone » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:17 am

I am a BIG fan of cafeteria shopping for music. I buy very few albums because, often, there may only be one or two songs, max, that I want. So I was thrilled when the opportunity arose to buy single tracks.

I still do buy entire albums -- some online and some CD's -- but only rarely anymore.

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Postby Zan » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:16 am

bugsymalone wrote:I am a BIG fan of cafeteria shopping for music. I buy very few albums because, often, there may only be one or two songs, max, that I want. So I was thrilled when the opportunity arose to buy single tracks.

I still do buy entire albums -- some online and some CD's -- but only rarely anymore.

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I agree with Bugsy on this one. There are some great artists out there with truly GOOD CDs, but for the most part, I can only tolerate 1 or 2 songs on any given album. I'm glad we can pick & choose which ones we want to pay for instead of getting stuck with 8 crappy songs for the sake of 2 decent ones.
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Postby StyxCollector » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:19 am

I know I'm a bit of a crumudgeon on this one. I don't mind singles. I do mind lossy MP3s. If the new Styx/REO single was available as lossless, I'd get it. But it's not. I'm hoping to find some sort of promo that is the real deal.
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Postby bugsymalone » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:59 am

StyxCollector wrote:I know I'm a bit of a crumudgeon on this one. I don't mind singles. I do mind lossy MP3s. If the new Styx/REO single was available as lossless, I'd get it. But it's not. I'm hoping to find some sort of promo that is the real deal.


I know this is the bone a lot of serious music collectors have to pick with buying music in this format. My hearing ain't that great and everything I listen to on my iPod or in my vehicle sounds fine to me, LOL!

I do understand, though, that losing sound quality from the original is an unhappy result of how music is sold now. It doesn't bother me, but I do appreciate that it bothers a lot of people.


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