Spliced version of Fooling Yourself

[blt man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObKKP4oQEo

[Babyblue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObKKP4oQEo

Thanks, for sharing this with us here. That was like the best of both worlds.So DDY has a sound alike T.S.heehee Have to say love my Styx now much better.

[Boomchild]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObKKP4oQEo

Thanks, for sharing this with us here. That was like the best of both worlds.So DDY has a sound alike T.S.heehee Have to say love my Styx now much better.

I would have to say that I wish DDY would have stuck to his own material for his show. But, to the general fan I'm sure they don't care that it is not the original signer performing it. DDY's band does a good job with those songs but when I go to see DDY, I want to hear his stuff not the stuff by his former band mates. That's not to say that I do not care for those songs.

[Babyblue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObKKP4oQEo

Thanks, for sharing this with us here. That was like the best of both worlds.So DDY has a sound alike T.S.heehee Have to say love my Styx now much better.

I would have to say that I wish DDY would have stuck to his own material for his show. But, to the general fan I'm sure they don't care that it is not the original signer performing it. DDY's band does a good job with those songs but when I go to see DDY, I want to hear his stuff not the stuff by his former band mates. That's not to say that I do not care for those songs.

And i have to agree with you BC.I went back and must have seen it about 3 times.Both of them were good.I would love to hear DDY music.But understand the fans want to hear Styx as well.Who ever did this video was good it just fell into place.

[brywool]

I think Dennis' guy sounds more like Glen than Tommy. Decent job of editing for sure.
I think both of them are great versions and they're not different enough to say one's better than the other. I must say that anything with Todd playing on it is going to stand out.

Both good versions.

[StyxCollector]

One could make the argument they want to hear the "original guy" doing the right keyboard runs, too. Some of them are DDY signature lines to some. So it's no-win all around. THe bottom line is that both Styx and DDY are doing songs sung by the other version. What you want to pay to see or choose to hear is up to you.

[brywool]

One could make the argument they want to hear the "original guy" doing the right keyboard runs, too. Some of them are DDY signature lines to some. So it's no-win all around. THe bottom line is that both Styx and DDY are doing songs sung by the other version. What you want to pay to see or choose to hear is up to you.

well, it's funny, but Gowan plays the song more true to the record than Dennis does. Someone on Youtube kind of dinged Gowan for playing the original lines while Dennis improv'd a bit. And as we know, an Oberheim has so much "feeling" to it (joke).

I think the renditions are pretty darned similar and either one would be cool to hear/see live.

[StyxCollector]

Dennis has always said he left some room for improv within the structure of certain parts, so it's nothing new. If I get a chance to see DDY again this summer it'll be interesting to see how the tunes have come along because they were a bit of a live/studio hybrid arrangement when I saw the show a few months ago. Gowan definitely sticks more to the studio parts for a lot of things (not a bad thing, just an observation).

What I think this video proves is that both lineups are more similar than they are different.

[bugsymalone]

Dennis has always said he left some room for improv within the structure of certain parts, so it's nothing new. If I get a chance to see DDY again this summer it'll be interesting to see how the tunes have come along because they were a bit of a live/studio hybrid arrangement when I saw the show a few months ago. Gowan definitely sticks more to the studio parts for a lot of things (not a bad thing, just an observation).

What I think this video proves is that both lineups are more similar than they are different.

Dennis admires a lot of jazz pianists/organists, and I think he likes to play around a bit with the solo lines. (I like a lot of the jazzy riffs he does on his solo albums.) Foolin' Yourself gives him plenty of opportunity to play around a bit with the basic solo he came up with so many years ago on the original recording.

Bugsy

[Boomchild]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObKKP4oQEo

Thanks, for sharing this with us here. That was like the best of both worlds.So DDY has a sound alike T.S.heehee Have to say love my Styx now much better.

I would have to say that I wish DDY would have stuck to his own material for his show. But, to the general fan I'm sure they don't care that it is not the original signer performing it. DDY's band does a good job with those songs but when I go to see DDY, I want to hear his stuff not the stuff by his former band mates. That's not to say that I do not care for those songs.

And i have to agree with you BC.I went back and must have seen it about 3 times.Both of them were good.I would love to hear DDY music.But understand the fans want to hear Styx as well.Who ever did this video was good it just fell into place.

I think that DDY could still put more of his solo work into the show without it taking something away for the casual fan. I also think that DDY discounts the popularity of some of his solo material.

[Boomchild]

One could make the argument they want to hear the "original guy" doing the right keyboard runs, too. Some of them are DDY signature lines to some. So it's no-win all around. THe bottom line is that both Styx and DDY are doing songs sung by the other version. What you want to pay to see or choose to hear is up to you.

When I saw Styx post the split, one of the things I missed was DDy's keyboard playing. I always liked it a lot. I am not putting down LG as a keyboardist, he just didn't do anything for me.

[chickenbeef]

One could make the argument they want to hear the "original guy" doing the right keyboard runs, too. Some of them are DDY signature lines to some. So it's no-win all around. THe bottom line is that both Styx and DDY are doing songs sung by the other version. What you want to pay to see or choose to hear is up to you.

When I saw Styx post the split, one of the things I missed was DDy's keyboard playing. I always liked it a lot. I am not putting down LG as a keyboardist, he just didn't do anything for me.

yeah i know what you mean larry is probably only the best piano player in the world

[brywool]

One could make the argument they want to hear the "original guy" doing the right keyboard runs, too. Some of them are DDY signature lines to some. So it's no-win all around. THe bottom line is that both Styx and DDY are doing songs sung by the other version. What you want to pay to see or choose to hear is up to you.

When I saw Styx post the split, one of the things I missed was DDy's keyboard playing. I always liked it a lot. I am not putting down LG as a keyboardist, he just didn't do anything for me.

yeah i know what you mean larry is probably only the best piano player in the world

Don't know about "the world" but he is a better player than Dennis. Not a better vocalist, but a better player. Still, Dennis plays great.

[pinkfloyd1973]

One could make the argument they want to hear the "original guy" doing the right keyboard runs, too. Some of them are DDY signature lines to some. So it's no-win all around. THe bottom line is that both Styx and DDY are doing songs sung by the other version. What you want to pay to see or choose to hear is up to you.

When I saw Styx post the split, one of the things I missed was DDy's keyboard playing. I always liked it a lot. I am not putting down LG as a keyboardist, he just didn't do anything for me.

yeah i know what you mean larry is probably only the best piano player in the world

Don't know about "the world" but he is a better player than Dennis. Not a better vocalist, but a better player. Still, Dennis plays great.

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

[brywool]

One could make the argument they want to hear the "original guy" doing the right keyboard runs, too. Some of them are DDY signature lines to some. So it's no-win all around. THe bottom line is that both Styx and DDY are doing songs sung by the other version. What you want to pay to see or choose to hear is up to you.

When I saw Styx post the split, one of the things I missed was DDy's keyboard playing. I always liked it a lot. I am not putting down LG as a keyboardist, he just didn't do anything for me.

yeah i know what you mean larry is probably only the best piano player in the world

Don't know about "the world" but he is a better player than Dennis. Not a better vocalist, but a better player. Still, Dennis plays great.

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

[pinkfloyd1973]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

[brywool]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

Yeah, that's Dennis' playing history as far as I can glom.

Gowan can improvise circles around DeYoung. The fact that he doesn't... well, he's playing another guy's stuff for another guy's fans. I don't really think that that's the time to improv, do you? If you were to go see a Beatles tribute act and instead of playing all the solos as they are on record, they played whatever the heck they wanted, it wouldn't be much of a tribute act. While I do not subscribe to the notion that Styx is a tribute act (I know some do), I think Gowan looks at his role as re-creating these great lines and I think he'd be the first to say that. In any interview I've read from Gowan, he's got nothing but respect for the songs and Dennis' playing.

If Gowan improv'd all those solos (and listen to live versions of Crystal Ball because he's done that) then the Dennis fans would slam him. I think he's doing the right thing by sticking to the arrangements. My opinion...

The harpsichord break he plays ini "Kiss Your Ass Goodbye" is worth price of admission. It's amazingly good.

[chickenbeef]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

"I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard)."

yes most people who play the piano have to learn how to play it at some point

[shaka]

I think Gowan choosing to play the music almost note for note perfect is, at least in part, his way of respecting the composer.

[Boomchild]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

I believe DDY himself has stated he does not look at himself as a master of the keyboard. In fact, he has stated something along the lines of that he can't do some things in the conventional way and had to work around it, which he feels is one of the things that gives him his own style of playing.

[chickenbeef]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

I believe DDY himself has stated he does not look at himself as a master of the keyboard. In fact, he has stated something along the lines of that he can't do some things in the conventional way and had to work around it, which he feels is one of the things that gives him his own style of playing.

that's just a nice way of saying he sucks

[Babyblue]

I think Gowan choosing to play the music almost note for note perfect is, at least in part, his way of respecting the composer.

[chickenbeef]

I think Gowan choosing to play the music almost note for note perfect is, at least in part, his way of respecting the composer.

too bad jy wrote that keyboard part

[DerriD]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

I believe DDY himself has stated he does not look at himself as a master of the keyboard. In fact, he has stated something along the lines of that he can't do some things in the conventional way and had to work around it, which he feels is one of the things that gives him his own style of playing.

that's just a nice way of saying he sucks

Sucks enough that both he and Larry make their coin by playing songs he wrote.

[chickenbeef]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

I believe DDY himself has stated he does not look at himself as a master of the keyboard. In fact, he has stated something along the lines of that he can't do some things in the conventional way and had to work around it, which he feels is one of the things that gives him his own style of playing.

that's just a nice way of saying he sucks

Sucks enough that both he and Larry make their coin by playing songs he wrote.

songs that styx wrote

[Boomchild]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

I believe DDY himself has stated he does not look at himself as a master of the keyboard. In fact, he has stated something along the lines of that he can't do some things in the conventional way and had to work around it, which he feels is one of the things that gives him his own style of playing.

that's just a nice way of saying he sucks

Sucks enough that both he and Larry make their coin by playing songs he wrote.

songs that styx wrote

Your correct, songs that Styx wrote when DDY was in the band and has the writing credits to some of those songs. That would be a more accurate statement.

[chickenbeef]

Not bad for a guy who pretty much had to teach himself how to play as opposed to a guy who was "classically trained"

so Dennis couldn't afford lessons? I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that Gowan's the superior player. I LIKE DeYoung's playing and he wrote those parts originally, so that's definitely worth something. But TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, Gowan is the superior player.

His first instrument was the accordion (which I believe he had lessons for that), I remember reading somewhere he pretty much had to learn to play the piano (and later the keyboard). Of couse most would agree that Gowan's the better player seeing that he was trained and Dennis learned on his own, I like Dennis' playing better because he can improvise and his playing isn't so strict


Robin 8)

I believe DDY himself has stated he does not look at himself as a master of the keyboard. In fact, he has stated something along the lines of that he can't do some things in the conventional way and had to work around it, which he feels is one of the things that gives him his own style of playing.

that's just a nice way of saying he sucks

Sucks enough that both he and Larry make their coin by playing songs he wrote.

songs that styx wrote

Your correct, songs that Styx wrote when DDY was in the band and has the writing credits to some of those songs. That would be a more accurate statement.

you mean songs that the three writers in styx wrote but were sometimes uncredited for because no one really cared about writing credits then because they were a band

[Rockwriter]

I think Gowan choosing to play the music almost note for note perfect is, at least in part, his way of respecting the composer.

too bad jy wrote that keyboard part

JY wrote the theme, not the solos. Gowan has said many times how much he liked the parts Dennis put on those records.


Sterling

[Abitaman]

As for the topic, DDY playing songs from Styx sung by TS. why not. DDY promotes his shows as something along the line of Dennis Dyoung and The Music of Styx. So it is no lie in the music being played. And I really don't see how Styx could stop him.

[chickenbeef]

I think Gowan choosing to play the music almost note for note perfect is, at least in part, his way of respecting the composer.

too bad jy wrote that keyboard part

JY wrote the theme, not the solos. Gowan has said many times how much he liked the parts Dennis put on those records.


Sterling

it's too bad dennis can't play his own parts anymore. sure he plays the piano well but a keyboard is different