Part 2 - Mel Gibson

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Postby AlteredDNA » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:22 am

The site is still online, but VERY slow...servers are probably being overloaded right now...
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Postby Voyager » Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:10 am

Servers must have been overloaded. Someone posted on another forum that Mel got them shutdown.

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Postby Clasicrockldy » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:01 am

There you have it.. I knew I couldn't trust her or her side of the story.. there was something in her whole presentation of the tapes that were suspect. She is not untouchable. And if anyone still thinks she is untouchable, I have some beachfront property to sell you in the desert!

I agree with BJG.... if this happened in January.... why wait and report it NOW? When shite like that happens.. REPORT IT when it happens. Just the fact that she waited 7 months is suspect to me. When I was physically abused, I reported it right away.

And her son is going to be interviewed by Child Services. I just hope she hasn't put shite in his head about this whole thing.. (I think she has... but it will be up to Child Services to figure that out.) Now I am waiting to hear if she gets arrested for not taking her children out of harm's way.. ( yes, that can happen. If there is domestic abuse in the home, and children are present, and they are not taken out of the home, both parties can be arrested. One party will be arrested for domestic violence, the other for failure to take children out of a dangerous situation.)

It is interesting that she allegedly tried to extort 10 million to keep the tapes private.. Hmmmm...now her alleged true self comes forth...

I am not giving Mel a pass on what he did either... what he did was wrong... whether it was the mental or alleged physical abuse. It was wrong!
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:08 am

One more thing, why didn't the Doctor who saw her report it to the police? He is, by law, obligated to report any domestic violence injuries to the police. Something is definitely rotten in the state of Denmark!
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Postby donnaplease » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:38 am

All of this could've been avoided - but for 2 and a half minutes... why did she have to go to sleep? :?
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:58 am

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I am not buying this pic of her teeth... If Mel allegedly hit her.. there would of been alot more damage than what is shown...

Nope.. not buying this for one nano second..
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:35 am

Come on, Rip. Is there some uniform law about how many teeth someone has to lose when getting sucker punched in the kisser?

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/76712/2010/07/radaronlinecom-exclusive-oksana-gregorievas-broken-teeth

It just amazes me how people will wait until they hear ANYTHING that is even remotely negative about his ex, and suddenly presume his innocence.

How anyone could listen to those tapes and think he's stable is beyond me. Trust me, he will lose custody of that child. Supervised visitation would not surprise me. The man is crazy. Nothing she could have said or done can justify his domestic abuse or his threats to harm and murder her. NOTHING.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:43 am

The teeth look normal for her being as Dean says " a smelly Euro" ;)
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:45 am

Look, if she were British, I would say Mel wasn't guilty. But she wasn't in the British Book of Smiles because she's a Ruskie.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:51 am

7 Wishes wrote:Look, if she were British, I would say Mel wasn't guilty. But she wasn't in the British Book of Smiles because she's a Ruskie.


Even I she was a toothless chick from stevew's village , Mel would still be guilty. ;).

They're both guilty.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:58 am

If she weighs as much as a duck, she can float, and is therefore a witch and needs to be stoned to death. However, if she does not float, and drowns, she is not a witch, and hence, not guilty.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:07 pm

7 Wishes wrote:If she weighs as much as a duck, she can float, and is therefore a witch and needs to be stoned to death. However, if she does not float, and drowns, she is not a witch, and hence, not guilty.



Well we could always try to build a bridge out of her and if she floats = definitely a witch =burn her !!!!
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:48 pm

New reports saying Doctor said no loss of teeth due to blow to face?
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:50 pm

Wow, that is a hell of a leap. Many people sustain broken teeth when punched in the mouth.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:02 pm

My bad, the dentist is just saying it's not her face in the pic.
It's the TMZ "experts" analyzing the pic that say it's someone with damages that look "self inflicted"...so she may not have even had the ballz to do it to herself with all that $ at stake
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:21 pm

7 Wishes wrote:Come on, Rip. Is there some uniform law about how many teeth someone has to lose when getting sucker punched in the kisser?

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/76712/2010/07/radaronlinecom-exclusive-oksana-gregorievas-broken-teeth

It just amazes me how people will wait until they hear ANYTHING that is even remotely negative about his ex, and suddenly presume his innocence.

How anyone could listen to those tapes and think he's stable is beyond me. Trust me, he will lose custody of that child. Supervised visitation would not surprise me. The man is crazy. Nothing she could have said or done can justify his domestic abuse or his threats to harm and murder her. NOTHING.


No one here is saying that Mel is innocent, 7, but the credibility of the "victim" is called into question. I am questioning her credibility. Waiting 7 months to say that she has been mentally and physically abused by Mel... when she should of called her local law enforcement to document it immediately after it happened smells fishy to me.. and if there were any subsequent altercations after the January one, those should of been called in and those incidents would of been recorded too by law enforcement, which would give her the documentation she needed for going to court. And law enforcement would of taken photos as well of any and all injuries. And the visit to the hospital, the Doctor who attended to her should of called it in back in January. By law, Doctors are supposed to report any domestic injuries to law enforcement.

The surfacing of the tapes is her way of trying to get the upper hand in this... and it will backfire on her, if it hasn't already. 7, she isn't innocent, not by a long shot.

Mel isn't innocent either. He is guilty too. Both need to have some sort of counseling and Mel possibly needs some rehab to boot.

And as for the custody of the child... I say neither one should have it if I want to go there. We don't know how the mother really is with the child.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:43 pm

A lot of abused women have a difficult time actually taking that first step - contacting law enforcement, an attorney, or even another family member. No-one can pass judgment on someone because she didn't report this alleged crime when it first happened. It's very typical behavior when someone is fearful for their well-being.

Look, she obviously released these tapes. She's a woman with questionable moral integrity, to be sure...but if Melvin hit her (and it seems certain he did since he admitted to it and made multiple references to it), she is a victim, no matter what.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:12 pm

7 Wishes wrote:A lot of abused women have a difficult time actually taking that first step - contacting law enforcement, an attorney, or even another family member. No-one can pass judgment on someone because she didn't report this alleged crime when it first happened. It's very typical behavior when someone is fearful for their well-being.

Look, she obviously released these tapes. She's a woman with questionable moral integrity, to be sure...but if Melvin hit her (and it seems certain he did since he admitted to it and made multiple references to it), she is a victim, no matter what.


If she allegedly had the balls to try and extort money out of Mel for not releasing the tapes, then she has the balls to call law enforcement. I am not buying that act. Russian ladies are particularly strong women, and devious ones as well ( and yes... I am singling her out... but there are lots of women in the world who are strong and devious as well.) Trust me, she isn't stupid... although reporting a domestic injury 7 months late is stupid. She knows what she is doing to get that almighty dollar out of Mel... and to bring him down with his own words. If she was fearful of her well being, and that of the children... she would of gotten out of there... And by staying there...in that situation with Mel, SHE could be arrested just for putting the children into that dangerous situation.
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Postby donnaplease » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:29 pm

George W. Bush made her do it. :twisted:
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Postby donnaplease » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:44 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:Image


OK, time for some amateur detective work here...

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Compare this picture to the one focused on her mouth. The top left front tooth in Rip's picture is noticeably smaller than the same tooth in the pic I posted. It looks to me like she probably had a crown, veneers, or some other kind of cosmetic dentistry. The two teeth are definitely not the same. Now, that doesn't mean she wasn't hit in the mouth by Mel. I have no answer the to chip on the top right front tooth. And maybe he hit her so hard that it knocked the veneer off, who knows. But, if that were the case, I would think there would be evidence of that on her big inflated lips, which I don't see.

I think, once again, that there's more to this story. Again, like most everyone here, I'm not excusing Mel's behavior. He should be sooo ashamed of himself, and I'm embarrassed for him. Radaronline's stock has certainly risen though, huh?
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:28 pm

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Rip Rokken wrote:Image


OK, time for some amateur detective work here...

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Compare this picture to the one focused on her mouth. The top left front tooth in Rip's picture is noticeably smaller than the same tooth in the pic I posted. It looks to me like she probably had a crown, veneers, or some other kind of cosmetic dentistry. The two teeth are definitely not the same. Now, that doesn't mean she wasn't hit in the mouth by Mel. I have no answer the to chip on the top right front tooth. And maybe he hit her so hard that it knocked the veneer off, who knows. But, if that were the case, I would think there would be evidence of that on her big inflated lips, which I don't see.

I think, once again, that there's more to this story. Again, like most everyone here, I'm not excusing Mel's behavior. He should be sooo ashamed of himself, and I'm embarrassed for him. Radaronline's stock has certainly risen though, huh?


She did have veneers, and that's what was actually damaged -- one came off and one was broken in half according to what I read. There's been suspicion she caused the injury herself because she didn't seem to have the additional mouth trauma (busted lips, gums, etc.) that should come from being struck like that.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:33 pm

7 Wishes wrote:A lot of abused women have a difficult time actually taking that first step - contacting law enforcement, an attorney, or even another family member. No-one can pass judgment on someone because she didn't report this alleged crime when it first happened. It's very typical behavior when someone is fearful for their well-being.

Look, she obviously released these tapes. She's a woman with questionable moral integrity, to be sure...but if Melvin hit her (and it seems certain he did since he admitted to it and made multiple references to it), she is a victim, no matter what.


Thats usually the case when the abused woman lives in a sheltered enviroment with no one to go to and no roof over her head ,,, this is a different situation, where she could get this reported to the cops during her limo ride ;)
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:18 am

Behshad wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:A lot of abused women have a difficult time actually taking that first step - contacting law enforcement, an attorney, or even another family member. No-one can pass judgment on someone because she didn't report this alleged crime when it first happened. It's very typical behavior when someone is fearful for their well-being.

Look, she obviously released these tapes. She's a woman with questionable moral integrity, to be sure...but if Melvin hit her (and it seems certain he did since he admitted to it and made multiple references to it), she is a victim, no matter what.


Thats usually the case when the abused woman lives in a sheltered enviroment with no one to go to and no roof over her head ,,, this is a different situation, where she could get this reported to the cops during her limo ride ;)


I bet someone somewhere will turn this teeth punching thing into a Flash game for the Internet. You know, like "Punch out Oskana's veneers and win a free iPod Shuffle!"

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Postby 7 Wishes » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:18 am

Right. She's rich and therefore her fears are completely invalidated. OK.

The teeth look different because they were veneers! It takes a wallop to forcibly remove veneers and chip the underlying original tooth. Also, her lip looks pretty damn swollen to me.

Melvin is a lunatic and should be in jail.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:21 am

7 Wishes wrote:Right. She's rich and therefore her fears are completely invalidated. OK.

The teeth look different because they were veneers! It takes a wallop to forcibly remove veneers and chip the underlying original tooth. Also, her lip looks pretty damn swollen to me.

Melvin is a lunatic and should be in jail.


I didnt say her fears are invalidated. Its just that when youre that rich, you can put an end to it much easier than many poor girls who are stuck in abusive relationships, only cause the guy provides financial stability ...
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Postby RPM » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:13 am

Hes a dumb ass for screwing up his marriage, but this leach set him up and he fell hook line and sinker.
I hope she gets nothing, as far as his comments, people say stupid things when they are crazy angry
but the media just focused on the racial outburst, they suck too. As far as hitting her, no excuse for that
whatsoever.....another dumb ass move.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:31 am

7 Wishes wrote:Right. She's rich and therefore her fears are completely invalidated. OK.

It takes a wallop to forcibly remove veneers and chip the underlying original tooth. Also, her lip looks pretty damn swollen to me.

Melvin is a lunatic and should be in jail.


Do you have a degree in Wallopology? If he actually did this, I hope he didn't contract a veneerial disease from that nasty mouth.

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Postby Rip Rokken » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:59 am

SURPRISE MANEUVER!!! Mel's now planning to move back to Australia with his ex-wife!

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... test=faces

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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:22 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:Right. She's rich and therefore her fears are completely invalidated. OK.

It takes a wallop to forcibly remove veneers and chip the underlying original tooth. Also, her lip looks pretty damn swollen to me.

Melvin is a lunatic and should be in jail.


Do you have a degree in Wallopology? If he actually did this, I hope he didn't contract a veneerial disease from that nasty mouth.

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I'm not laughing at her, I'm laughing at you. I think her lips look pretty damn swollen because they're
pretty damn big!! :evil: :wink:
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