Tommy Shaw says Styx will not reunite with Dennis DeYoung

[pinkfloyd1973]

Dennis shouldn't ever waste his time with his former bandmates. They don't deserve his company or prestige. They can just keep running their "best version of Styx ever" into the ground. Stupid comments like these don't help Tommy's cause at all. The fuck you weren't happy Tommy.

Pass the kool aid

Don't you mean bathwater?

[Everett]

Dennis shouldn't ever waste his time with his former bandmates. They don't deserve his company or prestige. They can just keep running their "best version of Styx ever" into the ground. Stupid comments like these don't help Tommy's cause at all. The fuck you weren't happy Tommy.

Pass the kool aid

Don't you mean bathwater?

Or mind control device either way

[Archetype]

Dennis is still classy

“If it were up to me,” he said, “I’d still be in Styx. I gave my life to that name. Styx. It wasn’t Dennis DeYoung. It was Styx.”

So, what’s the beef?

“I don’t think it’s worth discussion,” 
DeYoung confessed, “and I think you’d have to ask them.”

“If it were up to me,” DeYoung said, “I would be in Styx. But short of that, having August there is a blast.”

Link to the interview

[Boomchild]

Dennis shouldn't ever waste his time with his former bandmates. They don't deserve his company or prestige. They can just keep running their "best version of Styx ever" into the ground. Stupid comments like these don't help Tommy's cause at all. The fuck you weren't happy Tommy.

Pass the kool aid

Don't you mean bathwater?

Or mind control device either way

That would be JY's effect on the current Styx fans since deep down inside he is Dr. Righteous.

[froy]

Dennis shouldn't ever waste his time with his former band mates. They don't deserve his company or prestige. They can just keep running their "best version of Styx ever" into the ground. Stupid comments like these don't help Tommy's cause at all. The fuck you weren't happy Tommy.

I agree

[Boomchild]

Dennis is still classy

“If it were up to me,” he said, “I’d still be in Styx. I gave my life to that name. Styx. It wasn’t Dennis DeYoung. It was Styx.”

So, what’s the beef?

“I don’t think it’s worth discussion,” 
DeYoung confessed, “and I think you’d have to ask them.”

“If it were up to me,” DeYoung said, “I would be in Styx. But short of that, having August there is a blast.”

Link to the interview

One cannot deny that Dennis has ALWAYS been respectful when speaking about his former band mates and Styx itself. He has no need to take jabs or bring things down in the gutter. He has always been a professional at being a musician/artist. He keeps the personal things private where they should be.

[Toph]

Where did this supposed speculation come from... I saw it nowhere else except on here. Did our little message board start this? Nevermind I read the original Rolling Stone article and saw that it was just the usual questioning. Mother fucker is all I can say right now.

Your reply prompts me to ask: If you feel that Tommy is a "Mother F**ker", why would you want Dennis to be in the company of a person like that? Dennis would be degrading himself wouldn't he? I like a lot of people here has thought over Dennis reuniting with Styx and have come to the following two thoughts.

1. A Styx reuniting of the "classic lineup" has a snowball's chance in hell of happening.
2. Dennis has no real reason to reunite with people who stabbed him in the back and attempted to hijack the band without giving Dennis his fair share of the value of Styx in business sense.

Just give my points some thought. He doesn't need to be in the company of people like his former band mates. They will poke fun and bitch that KWH was so bad but, had no issues collecting the checks on that project.

My problem with the idiots calling themselves Styx is what they are doing to bastardize the name - ignoring half the catalog, playing shit fairs and bowling alleys. I just wish Dennis could have gotten more control of the name.

[LtVanish]

So Mr. Shaw, if 1996 was such a painful experience why did 1997 tour happen? Why was BNW even recorded at all? Talk about someone who changes their stories every interview!

[Boomchild]

Where did this supposed speculation come from... I saw it nowhere else except on here. Did our little message board start this? Nevermind I read the original Rolling Stone article and saw that it was just the usual questioning. Mother fucker is all I can say right now.

Your reply prompts me to ask: If you feel that Tommy is a "Mother F**ker", why would you want Dennis to be in the company of a person like that? Dennis would be degrading himself wouldn't he? I like a lot of people here has thought over Dennis reuniting with Styx and have come to the following two thoughts.

1. A Styx reuniting of the "classic lineup" has a snowball's chance in hell of happening.
2. Dennis has no real reason to reunite with people who stabbed him in the back and attempted to hijack the band without giving Dennis his fair share of the value of Styx in business sense.

Just give my points some thought. He doesn't need to be in the company of people like his former band mates. They will poke fun and bitch that KWH was so bad but, had no issues collecting the checks on that project.

My problem with the idiots calling themselves Styx is what they are doing to bastardize the name - ignoring half the catalog, playing shit fairs and bowling alleys. I just wish Dennis could have gotten more control of the name.

In all fairness Dennis was only one of five guys in the band. Like it or not they also had a share in the name and 3 trumps one. Gee, For a guy who's been labeled as a control freak or "it was all about him" it seems he was pretty fair when it came to the major parts of the business called Styx. As far as the current band called Styx, does it really matter anymore if they are so called trashing the name? It's all over, it was over in '84. We got a glimpse at what the glory days were like in '96/'97. The Fat Lady Has Sung, Elvis has Left The Building or to quote Lou Reed, "Stick a fork in their Ass, their done".

[Toph]

I'm not sure who lies more...Tommy Shaw or Casey Anthony.

Everything Shaw says is full of shit. The guy is a compulsive liar. "I never had fun in Styx until Dennis left". BULLSHIT.

[Boomchild]

So Mr. Shaw, if 1996 was such a painful experience why did 1997 tour happen? Why was BNW even recorded at all? Talk about someone who changes their stories every interview!

Aw, don't give Tommy a hard time. You know drugs fuck up your brain so maybe he just forgets what he said or remembers.

[Baron Von Bielski]

So Mr. Shaw, if 1996 was such a painful experience why did 1997 tour happen? Why was BNW even recorded at all? Talk about someone who changes their stories every interview!

Exactly. Even in the Behind the Music he said how great the reunion was up until deciding on the BNW tour. Watch the extras on the Retrun to Paradise DVD and Tommy Shaw says what a great singer Dennis is and what a thrill it is to witness that every night. I hate people who change their fucking story.

[Baron Von Bielski]

Where did this supposed speculation come from... I saw it nowhere else except on here. Did our little message board start this? Nevermind I read the original Rolling Stone article and saw that it was just the usual questioning. Mother fucker is all I can say right now.

Your reply prompts me to ask: If you feel that Tommy is a "Mother F**ker", why would you want Dennis to be in the company of a person like that? Dennis would be degrading himself wouldn't he? I like a lot of people here has thought over Dennis reuniting with Styx and have come to the following two thoughts.

1. A Styx reuniting of the "classic lineup" has a snowball's chance in hell of happening.
2. Dennis has no real reason to reunite with people who stabbed him in the back and attempted to hijack the band without giving Dennis his fair share of the value of Styx in business sense.

Just give my points some thought. He doesn't need to be in the company of people like his former band mates. They will poke fun and bitch that KWH was so bad but, had no issues collecting the checks on that project.

I wasn't actually calling him that, more or less just shouting the term out of sheer anger and disappointment. Although the more I read his words I am building up to some names to use. I just want my favorite band to be the way I remember it. It's what I want, it may be self serving, but I don't care.

[Babyblue]

Who cares!!!!! I enjoy seeing Styx, some people like to see DDY. Do what makes you happy!

And i agree

Go see the ones you like better.

[gr8dane]

Who cares!!!!! I enjoy seeing Styx, some people like to see DDY. Do what makes you happy!

And i agree

Go see the ones you like better.

Exactly.
You want rock'n roll,you see Styx.
You want jazz hands you see Dennis.

Anyways,thanks Sterling.

[Monker]

All he said was that he and Dennis just don't get along. He didn't badmouth him....he didn't even say it was Dennis' fault. He only said that they're not good for each other.

Now maybe he DID backstab Dennis at some point....none of us were there at the splitup....but this interview doesn't prove at all any backstabbing.

Dennis has been out of the band for 12 Years and he comes out with this garbage. Just goes to show how foolish Tommy Shaw is, He does a bluegrass cd that sells only 4000 units, His band can't even draw over 1000 fans, All he has been doing are cover cds of his own music and now today after the numbers come out showing how STYX has completely failed he once again throws shit at Dennis DeYoung, This guy would be even more of a 0 without Dennis. This is the world we live in folks
Poor Tommy Shaw has been taking a beating for killing STYX so he comes out and rips Dennis , This is a sad day for all STYX fans thanks to Tommy Shaw.

He is basically saying that money isn't what makes him happy, and all the money they make with Dennis in the band does not make up for the fact that the situation is an unhappy one.

That has been the consistent message from this band from the beginning. The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

[yogi]

I agree with Monker.

For those of you that dont agree and are divorced go back today and hook up with the ex. I am sure that you will be happy. You can get all of your old friends back and party like its 1979.

[froy]

"Monker"

The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

About the Money? What money? These band members are making 2000 dollars per night so there is no money. Who does Shaw think he is fooling,
They are drawing an average of 800 fans. Get it 800 so there is no money and there are no fans left, For me its not about a Reunion more than it's about
getting rid of the horrific singer singing Dennis songs, Get rid of Gowan or just get rid of Dennis songs from the set and you will never hear another complaint from me about this lineup. And don't start with this BS they are STYX songs because according to Shaw is was a miserable experience making Dennis songs so don't play them.

[masque]

"Monker"

The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

About the Money? What money? These band members are making 2000 dollars per night so there is no money. Who does Shaw think he is fooling,
They are drawing an average of 800 fans. Get it 800 so there is no money and there are no fans left, For me its not about a Reunion more than it's about
getting rid of the horrific singer singing Dennis songs, Get rid of Gowan or just get rid of Dennis songs from the set and you will never hear another complaint from me about this lineup. And don't start with this BS they are STYX songs because according to Shaw is was a miserable experience making Dennis songs so don't play them.

dude i am ok with your position about hating current styx and loving DDY and all that but your numbers about what current styx are drawing and getting paid are not correct.....you can look it up and they are getting paid on average 60-80k per show......not counting merchandise.......so let's say their overhead is 50% of that then they are still averaging well over 5k per band member per show not counting merchandise which merch is almost all profit......and there is no way that ricky and probably todd and gowan are getting paid what tommy and jy do.......couple that with over a 100 shows per year and the business of styx is doing just fine financially. they wouldnt be out there doing it if they didnt make decent money doing it.

[froy]

"Monker"

The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

About the Money? What money? These band members are making 2000 dollars per night so there is no money. Who does Shaw think he is fooling,
They are drawing an average of 800 fans. Get it 800 so there is no money and there are no fans left, For me its not about a Reunion more than it's about
getting rid of the horrific singer singing Dennis songs, Get rid of Gowan or just get rid of Dennis songs from the set and you will never hear another complaint from me about this lineup. And don't start with this BS they are STYX songs because according to Shaw is was a miserable experience making Dennis songs so don't play them.

dude i am ok with your position about hating current styx and loving DDY and all that but your numbers about what current styx are drawing and getting paid are not correct.....you can look it up and they are getting paid on average 60-80k per show......not counting merchandise.......so let's say their overhead is 50% of that then they are still averaging well over 5k per band member per show not counting merchandise which merch is almost all profit......and there is no way that ricky and probably todd and gowan are getting paid what tommy and jy do.......couple that with over a 100 shows per year and the business of styx is doing just fine financially. they wouldnt be out there doing it if they didnt make decent money doing it.

Masque with all due respect go to pollstar.com the numbers are there and accurate expect that Casino misprint,

[Monker]

"Monker"

The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

About the Money? What money? These band members are making 2000 dollars per night so there is no money. Who does Shaw think he is fooling,
They are drawing an average of 800 fans. Get it 800 so there is no money and there are no fans left, For me its not about a Reunion more than it's about
getting rid of the horrific singer singing Dennis songs, Get rid of Gowan or just get rid of Dennis songs from the set and you will never hear another complaint from me about this lineup. And don't start with this BS they are STYX songs because according to Shaw is was a miserable experience making Dennis songs so don't play them.

Again, post the link that proves your mindless ranting. And, post a link to LRB's numbers. THEN you will have a point. Until then, you are just a troll following Toph's lead.

They are not going anywhere. Your only reasoning for "this is the end" (which you have ENDLESSLY repeated for 12yrs) is because YOU want them to. Styx has no reason to listen to some bulbous headed troll like you, or Toph. They will continue touring until either JY or Tommy dies or is physicaly unable to - and there is nothing that you or anybody else can do about it.

[Boomchild]

All he said was that he and Dennis just don't get along. He didn't badmouth him....he didn't even say it was Dennis' fault. He only said that they're not good for each other.

Now maybe he DID backstab Dennis at some point....none of us were there at the splitup....but this interview doesn't prove at all any backstabbing.

Dennis has been out of the band for 12 Years and he comes out with this garbage. Just goes to show how foolish Tommy Shaw is, He does a bluegrass cd that sells only 4000 units, His band can't even draw over 1000 fans, All he has been doing are cover cds of his own music and now today after the numbers come out showing how STYX has completely failed he once again throws shit at Dennis DeYoung, This guy would be even more of a 0 without Dennis. This is the world we live in folks
Poor Tommy Shaw has been taking a beating for killing STYX so he comes out and rips Dennis , This is a sad day for all STYX fans thanks to Tommy Shaw.

He is basically saying that money isn't what makes him happy, and all the money they make with Dennis in the band does not make up for the fact that the situation is an unhappy one.

That has been the consistent message from this band from the beginning. The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

"Consistent Message" give me a break. I remember reading a statement by the band or band member that basically said "Dennis has passed the baton to Tommy". I think this was a article in Goldmine around or just after '99. Consistent MY ASS.

[Boomchild]

Where did this supposed speculation come from... I saw it nowhere else except on here. Did our little message board start this? Nevermind I read the original Rolling Stone article and saw that it was just the usual questioning. Mother fucker is all I can say right now.

Your reply prompts me to ask: If you feel that Tommy is a "Mother F**ker", why would you want Dennis to be in the company of a person like that? Dennis would be degrading himself wouldn't he? I like a lot of people here has thought over Dennis reuniting with Styx and have come to the following two thoughts.

1. A Styx reuniting of the "classic lineup" has a snowball's chance in hell of happening.
2. Dennis has no real reason to reunite with people who stabbed him in the back and attempted to hijack the band without giving Dennis his fair share of the value of Styx in business sense.

Just give my points some thought. He doesn't need to be in the company of people like his former band mates. They will poke fun and bitch that KWH was so bad but, had no issues collecting the checks on that project.

I wasn't actually calling him that, more or less just shouting the term out of sheer anger and disappointment. Although the more I read his words I am building up to some names to use. I just want my favorite band to be the way I remember it. It's what I want, it may be self serving, but I don't care.

Well whether you like it or not it's not going to happen. Which is sad.

[Abitaman]

It goes on and on, on and on..it Heaven and Hell

[Boomchild]

It goes on and on, on and on..it Heaven and Hell

What else is new?

[Rockwriter]

"Monker"

The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

About the Money? What money? These band members are making 2000 dollars per night so there is no money. Who does Shaw think he is fooling,
They are drawing an average of 800 fans. Get it 800 so there is no money and there are no fans left, For me its not about a Reunion more than it's about
getting rid of the horrific singer singing Dennis songs, Get rid of Gowan or just get rid of Dennis songs from the set and you will never hear another complaint from me about this lineup. And don't start with this BS they are STYX songs because according to Shaw is was a miserable experience making Dennis songs so don't play them.

dude i am ok with your position about hating current styx and loving DDY and all that but your numbers about what current styx are drawing and getting paid are not correct.....you can look it up and they are getting paid on average 60-80k per show......not counting merchandise.......so let's say their overhead is 50% of that then they are still averaging well over 5k per band member per show not counting merchandise which merch is almost all profit......and there is no way that ricky and probably todd and gowan are getting paid what tommy and jy do.......couple that with over a 100 shows per year and the business of styx is doing just fine financially. they wouldnt be out there doing it if they didnt make decent money doing it.

Well, let's also be clear that there is not a five-way split going on. You have bosses who are profit participants and you have everyone else earning a nice salary. So Tommy and JY are keeping whatever's left over after everyone is paid, I'm assuming is how it works. And of course you're right, if it weren't meeting everyone's financial needs they wouldn't do it. Todd, for instance, could have his pick of gigs and is still hanging in there. That speaks to his commitment to his bandmates, as well as the fact that it's a good gig and you'd have a pretty damn hard time finding one that pays as well, playing the drums elsewhere. That's reality, it's a business.

Just to throw this out there, why does anyone think Dennis' band members show up for gigs? For the sheer joy of playing and the pleasure of his company? Or because they are being paid cold hard cash?

And what's wrong with that?

Sterling

[Baron Von Bielski]

All he said was that he and Dennis just don't get along. He didn't badmouth him....he didn't even say it was Dennis' fault. He only said that they're not good for each other.

Now maybe he DID backstab Dennis at some point....none of us were there at the splitup....but this interview doesn't prove at all any backstabbing.

Dennis has been out of the band for 12 Years and he comes out with this garbage. Just goes to show how foolish Tommy Shaw is, He does a bluegrass cd that sells only 4000 units, His band can't even draw over 1000 fans, All he has been doing are cover cds of his own music and now today after the numbers come out showing how STYX has completely failed he once again throws shit at Dennis DeYoung, This guy would be even more of a 0 without Dennis. This is the world we live in folks
Poor Tommy Shaw has been taking a beating for killing STYX so he comes out and rips Dennis , This is a sad day for all STYX fans thanks to Tommy Shaw.

He is basically saying that money isn't what makes him happy, and all the money they make with Dennis in the band does not make up for the fact that the situation is an unhappy one.

That has been the consistent message from this band from the beginning. The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

Yeah, it's about power.

[Boomchild]

All he said was that he and Dennis just don't get along. He didn't badmouth him....he didn't even say it was Dennis' fault. He only said that they're not good for each other.

Now maybe he DID backstab Dennis at some point....none of us were there at the splitup....but this interview doesn't prove at all any backstabbing.

Dennis has been out of the band for 12 Years and he comes out with this garbage. Just goes to show how foolish Tommy Shaw is, He does a bluegrass cd that sells only 4000 units, His band can't even draw over 1000 fans, All he has been doing are cover cds of his own music and now today after the numbers come out showing how STYX has completely failed he once again throws shit at Dennis DeYoung, This guy would be even more of a 0 without Dennis. This is the world we live in folks
Poor Tommy Shaw has been taking a beating for killing STYX so he comes out and rips Dennis , This is a sad day for all STYX fans thanks to Tommy Shaw.

He is basically saying that money isn't what makes him happy, and all the money they make with Dennis in the band does not make up for the fact that the situation is an unhappy one.

That has been the consistent message from this band from the beginning. The only fans who should be surprised at all about this interview are those who STILL want to believe it's all about the money. it's not - and it could be any clearer.

Yeah, it's about power.

It's also about the band no longer needs a creative driving force since all they are doing is banking on the bands legacy. You need that when you are starting out and to keep the momentum going when you first reach a successful stage.

[Toph]

Jonathan Chance needs to ease up. He and Robert Orin Charles Kilroy made alot of money together.

I think the fans who have obtuse fantasies of the band and Dennis ever working together again should 'ease up'. They are the ones with a warped view of things.

"You only live once and you should be happy." That seems pretty grounded to me. Tommy seems to know that money does not equate to happiness...and he seems very happey doing what he is doing, without having to share the stage with robotos.

Get your tongue out of Shaws butt. Its digusting.

[froy]

"Monker"



Again, post the link that proves your mindless ranting.

Sure what's your website link..

And, post a link to LRB's numbers.

Who the hell cares about the fake LRB I mean really, You are still and always will be an idiot..