What a hack job

[Babyblue]

Good show. Nice to see how well the band is doing.

Wonder why they didn't mention the current tour in the 1500 seat halls?

How about how strong they were trying to make BBT sound. That was on the chart for 1 week and sold less than 50000 copies. It was the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen.

Are you trying to take freds place?

[Baron Von Bielski]

I just found it completely boring and pointless. Although I was interested in what it might be when it was first announced, I realize now that it was a total waste to do an updated BTM on a band that hasn't done dick since the first one.

[Boomchild]

I just found it completely boring and pointless. Although I was interested in what it might be when it was first announced, I realize now that it was a total waste to do an updated BTM on a band that hasn't done dick since the first one.

Charlie Brusco would beg to differ with you!

[DarrenUK]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

[Monker]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

Froyline got booted by Andrew months ago. Toph had a tantrum and told us all to go fuck ourselves and stomped out of the forum like a baby and then came back a few weeks ago as trollish as ever.

[Boomchild]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

[Toph]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

Froyline got booted by Andrew months ago. Toph had a tantrum and told us all to go fuck ourselves and stomped out of the forum like a baby and then came back a few weeks ago as trollish as ever.

And Monker continues to be a tool....

[Toph]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

[Toph]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

Go back to Britain loser

[DarrenUK]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

Go back to Britain loser

Well that come back has made me quiver in fear ....... never been roasted so viciously.

[Rockwriter]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

[brywool]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

[Baron Von Bielski]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

She?

[Toph]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

She?

Uh...no. And, yes, Dennis does get a piece every time they play - just like Perry. I know this for a fact, but even if you didn't, think about it. Why would Dennis walk away from a lawsuit that on the surface shows he didn't win anything except to call himself (The Music of Styx or Formerly of Styx)? He'd go to court to let a judge hear it vs. settling out of court. What made him decide to stop pursuing it? Oh...yeah....he gets a share of the concert proceeds because he did so much to create the brand name Styx. My understanding was that the Perry and DeYoung agreements were quite similar. Except that I think Perry play much more of a role in the back catalog releases than Dennis. I think Dennis is not involved in anything Styx at all at this point, while Perry has been involved in the remastering of GH2 and DVDs, etc.

[Monker]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

She?

Uh...no. And, yes, Dennis does get a piece every time they play - just like Perry. I know this for a fact, but even if you didn't, think about it. Why would Dennis walk away from a lawsuit that on the surface shows he didn't win anything except to call himself (The Music of Styx or Formerly of Styx)? He'd go to court to let a judge hear it vs. settling out of court. What made him decide to stop pursuing it? Oh...yeah....he gets a share of the concert proceeds because he did so much to create the brand name Styx. My understanding was that the Perry and DeYoung agreements were quite similar. Except that I think Perry play much more of a role in the back catalog releases than Dennis. I think Dennis is not involved in anything Styx at all at this point, while Perry has been involved in the remastering of GH2 and DVDs, etc.

Maybe he 'walked away' from the lawsuit simply because he knew he couldn't win.

He doesn't get a share of the "concert proceeds". He gets a share of the merchandise sales and anything else that has his image or voice on it. That's what he sued for in first place so Styx gave it to him. It moved from going to "summary judgement" (where the judge makes a decision right away with the evidence given at that point) to settling out of court.

Journey and Perry made a deal...Journey was able to move on without Perry, and get the BTM with his participation...and Perry got the "sixth member" deal and the "gag order" from the rest of the band...and no going to court.

The remasters have NOTHING to do with this fight. These are SONY projects...So, they bring in Perry to work on them...and they also ask Neal and Jonathan for advice as well. Big deal. Dennis isn't involved in Styx releases because Universal hasn't had any big Styx releases. The various things that have been released are on small generic labels that do not spend as much time, effort and money on them as Sony did on Journey.

If there was any such deal with Styx, then Styx got something out of it...as Journey did, sorta. If they give Dennis concert revenue, what do they get? They were already in court, Dennis was already out of the band....So, what else did Dennis give Styx to get them to settle.

Styx had the upper hand in this - not Dennis. I think Styx gave him what he wanted...merchandise sales...and legally Dennis had nothing else that he could sue for so he settled.

The evidence of this is sitting right in front of your whining face. Why do you think they made concert shirts without Dennis and with Gowan? Why do you think they would rather push Regeneration, CYO and not PO8/GI then the back catalog? Because they do not have to 'write a check' to Dennis because his image and voice is not attached. But, if they sell a POE or GI CD or a Paradise DVD or a 'vintage' t-shirt...Dennis gets part of that merchandise $'s...that is what he sued for because Styx wasn't paying it.

[pinkfloyd1973]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

She?

Uh...no. And, yes, Dennis does get a piece every time they play - just like Perry. I know this for a fact, but even if you didn't, think about it. Why would Dennis walk away from a lawsuit that on the surface shows he didn't win anything except to call himself (The Music of Styx or Formerly of Styx)? He'd go to court to let a judge hear it vs. settling out of court. What made him decide to stop pursuing it? Oh...yeah....he gets a share of the concert proceeds because he did so much to create the brand name Styx. My understanding was that the Perry and DeYoung agreements were quite similar. Except that I think Perry play much more of a role in the back catalog releases than Dennis. I think Dennis is not involved in anything Styx at all at this point, while Perry has been involved in the remastering of GH2 and DVDs, etc.

Maybe he 'walked away' from the lawsuit simply because he knew he couldn't win.

He doesn't get a share of the "concert proceeds". He gets a share of the merchandise sales and anything else that has his image or voice on it. That's what he sued for in first place so Styx gave it to him. It moved from going to "summary judgement" (where the judge makes a decision right away with the evidence given at that point) to settling out of court.

Journey and Perry made a deal...Journey was able to move on without Perry, and get the BTM with his participation...and Perry got the "sixth member" deal and the "gag order" from the rest of the band...and no going to court.

The remasters have NOTHING to do with this fight. These are SONY projects...So, they bring in Perry to work on them...and they also ask Neal and Jonathan for advice as well. Big deal. Dennis isn't involved in Styx releases because Universal hasn't had any big Styx releases. The various things that have been released are on small generic labels that do not spend as much time, effort and money on them as Sony did on Journey.

If there was any such deal with Styx, then Styx got something out of it...as Journey did, sorta. If they give Dennis concert revenue, what do they get? They were already in court, Dennis was already out of the band....So, what else did Dennis give Styx to get them to settle.

Styx had the upper hand in this - not Dennis. I think Styx gave him what he wanted...merchandise sales...and legally Dennis had nothing else that he could sue for so he settled.

The evidence of this is sitting right in front of your whining face. Why do you think they made concert shirts without Dennis and with Gowan? Why do you think they would rather push Regeneration, CYO and not PO8/GI then the back catalog? Because they do not have to 'write a check' to Dennis because his image and voice is not attached. But, if they sell a POE or GI CD or a Paradise DVD or a 'vintage' t-shirt...Dennis gets part of that merchandise $'s...that is what he sued for because Styx wasn't paying it.

You're ASSUMING, since no one really knows the outcome of the lawsuit

[Toph]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

She?

Uh...no. And, yes, Dennis does get a piece every time they play - just like Perry. I know this for a fact, but even if you didn't, think about it. Why would Dennis walk away from a lawsuit that on the surface shows he didn't win anything except to call himself (The Music of Styx or Formerly of Styx)? He'd go to court to let a judge hear it vs. settling out of court. What made him decide to stop pursuing it? Oh...yeah....he gets a share of the concert proceeds because he did so much to create the brand name Styx. My understanding was that the Perry and DeYoung agreements were quite similar. Except that I think Perry play much more of a role in the back catalog releases than Dennis. I think Dennis is not involved in anything Styx at all at this point, while Perry has been involved in the remastering of GH2 and DVDs, etc.

Maybe he 'walked away' from the lawsuit simply because he knew he couldn't win.

He doesn't get a share of the "concert proceeds". He gets a share of the merchandise sales and anything else that has his image or voice on it. That's what he sued for in first place so Styx gave it to him. It moved from going to "summary judgement" (where the judge makes a decision right away with the evidence given at that point) to settling out of court.

Journey and Perry made a deal...Journey was able to move on without Perry, and get the BTM with his participation...and Perry got the "sixth member" deal and the "gag order" from the rest of the band...and no going to court.

The remasters have NOTHING to do with this fight. These are SONY projects...So, they bring in Perry to work on them...and they also ask Neal and Jonathan for advice as well. Big deal. Dennis isn't involved in Styx releases because Universal hasn't had any big Styx releases. The various things that have been released are on small generic labels that do not spend as much time, effort and money on them as Sony did on Journey.

If there was any such deal with Styx, then Styx got something out of it...as Journey did, sorta. If they give Dennis concert revenue, what do they get? They were already in court, Dennis was already out of the band....So, what else did Dennis give Styx to get them to settle.

Styx had the upper hand in this - not Dennis. I think Styx gave him what he wanted...merchandise sales...and legally Dennis had nothing else that he could sue for so he settled.

The evidence of this is sitting right in front of your whining face. Why do you think they made concert shirts without Dennis and with Gowan? Why do you think they would rather push Regeneration, CYO and not PO8/GI then the back catalog? Because they do not have to 'write a check' to Dennis because his image and voice is not attached. But, if they sell a POE or GI CD or a Paradise DVD or a 'vintage' t-shirt...Dennis gets part of that merchandise $'s...that is what he sued for because Styx wasn't paying it.

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

[StyxCollector]

Why do you think they made concert shirts without Dennis and with Gowan? Why do you think they would rather push Regeneration, CYO and not PO8/GI then the back catalog? Because they do not have to 'write a check' to Dennis because his image and voice is not attached. But, if they sell a POE or GI CD or a Paradise DVD or a 'vintage' t-shirt...Dennis gets part of that merchandise $'s...that is what he sued for because Styx wasn't paying it.

They do need to write a check to him for mechanical royalties when they use his songs in audio form (for example, Regeneration), and they had to get his permission (and pay him royalties) to get the sync rights for the GI/Po8 DVD. Lawsuit or not, they'd have to pay him the mechanical. So you can thank DDY for giving his OK to be able to get video from the GI/Po8 tour. That's just the way that stuff works.

As far as the merch, I'm not sure. On the tour they did with Joe Stark and Billy Squier (or was it the one with Bad Company? I forget) they were selling a repro of one of the Cornerstone designs sans DDY on it. But it had everyone else including JP. The same for the new PT repro shirt - it's got the modern band on it. In those cases, they were clearly altered to NOT include his likeness (and the reason I didn't buy either - if you're going to make a repro shirt, just do it right). I don't think he makes any money on merch, and I doubt ticket sales. I could be wrong, though. I have never asked him, nor would I. The results of the settlement are not nor have they ever been made public. Clearly whatever the settlement was, both sides walked away with something they were OK with.

[Monker]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

She?

Uh...no. And, yes, Dennis does get a piece every time they play - just like Perry. I know this for a fact, but even if you didn't, think about it. Why would Dennis walk away from a lawsuit that on the surface shows he didn't win anything except to call himself (The Music of Styx or Formerly of Styx)? He'd go to court to let a judge hear it vs. settling out of court. What made him decide to stop pursuing it? Oh...yeah....he gets a share of the concert proceeds because he did so much to create the brand name Styx. My understanding was that the Perry and DeYoung agreements were quite similar. Except that I think Perry play much more of a role in the back catalog releases than Dennis. I think Dennis is not involved in anything Styx at all at this point, while Perry has been involved in the remastering of GH2 and DVDs, etc.

Maybe he 'walked away' from the lawsuit simply because he knew he couldn't win.

He doesn't get a share of the "concert proceeds". He gets a share of the merchandise sales and anything else that has his image or voice on it. That's what he sued for in first place so Styx gave it to him. It moved from going to "summary judgement" (where the judge makes a decision right away with the evidence given at that point) to settling out of court.

Journey and Perry made a deal...Journey was able to move on without Perry, and get the BTM with his participation...and Perry got the "sixth member" deal and the "gag order" from the rest of the band...and no going to court.

The remasters have NOTHING to do with this fight. These are SONY projects...So, they bring in Perry to work on them...and they also ask Neal and Jonathan for advice as well. Big deal. Dennis isn't involved in Styx releases because Universal hasn't had any big Styx releases. The various things that have been released are on small generic labels that do not spend as much time, effort and money on them as Sony did on Journey.

If there was any such deal with Styx, then Styx got something out of it...as Journey did, sorta. If they give Dennis concert revenue, what do they get? They were already in court, Dennis was already out of the band....So, what else did Dennis give Styx to get them to settle.

Styx had the upper hand in this - not Dennis. I think Styx gave him what he wanted...merchandise sales...and legally Dennis had nothing else that he could sue for so he settled.

The evidence of this is sitting right in front of your whining face. Why do you think they made concert shirts without Dennis and with Gowan? Why do you think they would rather push Regeneration, CYO and not PO8/GI then the back catalog? Because they do not have to 'write a check' to Dennis because his image and voice is not attached. But, if they sell a POE or GI CD or a Paradise DVD or a 'vintage' t-shirt...Dennis gets part of that merchandise $'s...that is what he sued for because Styx wasn't paying it.

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

[Toph]

Thought I would pop in to see comments after watching the remastered BTM.
I was expecting to see Froy telling us all that Styx would not last much longer like he did in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc etc but he is nowhere to be seen, Is Froy now Toph or is Toph his and DDY's love child ?.
Where is Froy ?

Oh and DDY fans cannot be too upset at least he gets to keep his name

As well as the publishing rights and royalties to all the songs he wrote in Styx. As a DDY fan, I wouldn't want Dennis to have the sole ownership to the Styx name. It belonged to all of them. It was their contributions together that made Styx what it was. I don't think Dennis was ever looking to own the Styx name, more so protect his rights as a co owner of that name and what was being done with it. That comment by Brusco just shows what an ass he is. It appears he has no respect for Dennis' part in the legacy of the band.

And part of the take of every single tour.

That's never been confirmed as far as I know.

Sterling

Maybe she means that he gets royalties cuz Styx plays his songs? Perry was getting paid as a 6th member of Journey while Augeri was in the band. Ludicrous.

She?

Uh...no. And, yes, Dennis does get a piece every time they play - just like Perry. I know this for a fact, but even if you didn't, think about it. Why would Dennis walk away from a lawsuit that on the surface shows he didn't win anything except to call himself (The Music of Styx or Formerly of Styx)? He'd go to court to let a judge hear it vs. settling out of court. What made him decide to stop pursuing it? Oh...yeah....he gets a share of the concert proceeds because he did so much to create the brand name Styx. My understanding was that the Perry and DeYoung agreements were quite similar. Except that I think Perry play much more of a role in the back catalog releases than Dennis. I think Dennis is not involved in anything Styx at all at this point, while Perry has been involved in the remastering of GH2 and DVDs, etc.

Maybe he 'walked away' from the lawsuit simply because he knew he couldn't win.

He doesn't get a share of the "concert proceeds". He gets a share of the merchandise sales and anything else that has his image or voice on it. That's what he sued for in first place so Styx gave it to him. It moved from going to "summary judgement" (where the judge makes a decision right away with the evidence given at that point) to settling out of court.

Journey and Perry made a deal...Journey was able to move on without Perry, and get the BTM with his participation...and Perry got the "sixth member" deal and the "gag order" from the rest of the band...and no going to court.

The remasters have NOTHING to do with this fight. These are SONY projects...So, they bring in Perry to work on them...and they also ask Neal and Jonathan for advice as well. Big deal. Dennis isn't involved in Styx releases because Universal hasn't had any big Styx releases. The various things that have been released are on small generic labels that do not spend as much time, effort and money on them as Sony did on Journey.

If there was any such deal with Styx, then Styx got something out of it...as Journey did, sorta. If they give Dennis concert revenue, what do they get? They were already in court, Dennis was already out of the band....So, what else did Dennis give Styx to get them to settle.

Styx had the upper hand in this - not Dennis. I think Styx gave him what he wanted...merchandise sales...and legally Dennis had nothing else that he could sue for so he settled.

The evidence of this is sitting right in front of your whining face. Why do you think they made concert shirts without Dennis and with Gowan? Why do you think they would rather push Regeneration, CYO and not PO8/GI then the back catalog? Because they do not have to 'write a check' to Dennis because his image and voice is not attached. But, if they sell a POE or GI CD or a Paradise DVD or a 'vintage' t-shirt...Dennis gets part of that merchandise $'s...that is what he sued for because Styx wasn't paying it.

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

The ability to use the name.

[Monker]

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.[/quote]

The ability to use the name.[/quote]

They already had that...and that is not even why Dennis sued.

So, try again. what did Dennis give up to get Styx to pay him concert revenue.

[Boomchild]

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

The ability to use the name.

They already had that...and that is not even why Dennis sued.

So, try again. what did Dennis give up to get Styx to pay him concert revenue.

Your assuming they had the legal right to continue the use of the Styx name prior to the lawsuit without the consent of Dennis. If Dennis is as controlling as people make him to be then the contract they had in place would not allow them to do that legally.
So in effect they would be in breech of their contract. Dennis would have to agree to dissolve the current contract. So he would be giving them the legal right to use it without him.

[Monker]

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

The ability to use the name.

They already had that...and that is not even why Dennis sued.

So, try again. what did Dennis give up to get Styx to pay him concert revenue.

Your assuming they had the legal right to continue the use of the Styx name prior to the lawsuit without the consent of Dennis. If Dennis is as controlling as people make him to be then the contract they had in place would not allow them to do that legally.
So in effect they would be in breech of their contract. Dennis would have to agree to dissolve the current contract. So he would be giving them the legal right to use it without him.

The FACT is that Dennis did NOT sue Styx for control over the name. He did not sue for 'breach of contract' or any of the rest of your made up fantasy bullshit. It's a fact, in the public record. Go look it up.

[pinkfloyd1973]

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

The ability to use the name.

They already had that...and that is not even why Dennis sued.

So, try again. what did Dennis give up to get Styx to pay him concert revenue.

Your assuming they had the legal right to continue the use of the Styx name prior to the lawsuit without the consent of Dennis. If Dennis is as controlling as people make him to be then the contract they had in place would not allow them to do that legally.
So in effect they would be in breech of their contract. Dennis would have to agree to dissolve the current contract. So he would be giving them the legal right to use it without him.

The FACT is that Dennis did NOT sue Styx for control over the name. He did not sue for 'breach of contract' or any of the rest of your made up fantasy bullshit. It's a fact, in the public record. Go look it up.

Provide the link

[Toph]

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

The ability to use the name.

They already had that...and that is not even why Dennis sued.

So, try again. what did Dennis give up to get Styx to pay him concert revenue.

Your assuming they had the legal right to continue the use of the Styx name prior to the lawsuit without the consent of Dennis. If Dennis is as controlling as people make him to be then the contract they had in place would not allow them to do that legally.
So in effect they would be in breech of their contract. Dennis would have to agree to dissolve the current contract. So he would be giving them the legal right to use it without him.

The FACT is that Dennis did NOT sue Styx for control over the name. He did not sue for 'breach of contract' or any of the rest of your made up fantasy bullshit. It's a fact, in the public record. Go look it up.

Provide the link

Monker is tool. The crap he pulls is why he got kicked off the Journey board numerous times...

[Boomchild]

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

The ability to use the name.

They already had that...and that is not even why Dennis sued.

So, try again. what did Dennis give up to get Styx to pay him concert revenue.

Your assuming they had the legal right to continue the use of the Styx name prior to the lawsuit without the consent of Dennis. If Dennis is as controlling as people make him to be then the contract they had in place would not allow them to do that legally.
So in effect they would be in breech of their contract. Dennis would have to agree to dissolve the current contract. So he would be giving them the legal right to use it without him.

The FACT is that Dennis did NOT sue Styx for control over the name. He did not sue for 'breach of contract' or any of the rest of your made up fantasy bullshit. It's a fact, in the public record. Go look it up.

Sorry but the FACT is DDY filed suit against his former band mates stating that it was his position that they were using the "Styx name" without his consent. Consent implies that he as a partner in the business had co-ownership to the use of the name and how it is used. Therefore he would have to agree with it's usage or give up his rights in the bands name and it's usage.

The following is a excerpt from a Pollstar article which actually quotes Dennis:

DeYoung said a partnership contract renewed in 1990 by him, Tommy Shaw, James Young, Chuck Panozzo and Panozzo's brother, John, required all five to agree on matters concerning the band and the Styx trademark. John Panozzo died in 1996.
"Now they have taken the band's name and excluded me from the decision-making process," said DeYoung, who filed a federal lawsuit in Chicago October 10 claiming misuse of the Styx trademark.

Here's a link to the article itself: http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/arch ... 97085.aspx

Here is a excerpt from the Herald & Review from 2003:

"The split became official later in the year, and in 2000, DeYoung filed a lawsuit seeking to claim ownership of the Styx name and bar the group from working under that name."

The link to this article: http://www.jamesyoung.ws/intviews/heraldreview.htm

[Rockwriter]

He gets all that plus a percentage of every tour as well. Ticket sales in addition to merchandise.

...and what did Styx get from Dennis. What you say makes absolutely no logical sense at all.

The ability to use the name.

They already had that...and that is not even why Dennis sued.

So, try again. what did Dennis give up to get Styx to pay him concert revenue.

Your assuming they had the legal right to continue the use of the Styx name prior to the lawsuit without the consent of Dennis. If Dennis is as controlling as people make him to be then the contract they had in place would not allow them to do that legally.
So in effect they would be in breech of their contract. Dennis would have to agree to dissolve the current contract. So he would be giving them the legal right to use it without him.

The FACT is that Dennis did NOT sue Styx for control over the name. He did not sue for 'breach of contract' or any of the rest of your made up fantasy bullshit. It's a fact, in the public record. Go look it up.

His original filing alleged dilution of trademark, and also alleged the band was improperly utilizing a trademark in which he was part owner without permission and without remuneration. He sued for the proceeds of their touring or a fair portion thereof, and asked that they be prevented from using the name Styx. He was not asking that HE be able to use it, he was asking that they not be able to use it in his absence.

By the way, the settlement is such a secretive point with Styx that none of their employees profess to know how it turned out. I'm not even sure all of the band members know. So it's all speculation beyond what we know already; that he can bill himself as "The Music of Styx," and they retain the right to use the name Styx.


Sterling