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Postby LordofDaRing » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:30 am

Lets judge each "Dennis" song that they still/or have done, since 1999..applying several categories such as: who wrote the song, who originally sang it, crowd reaction if the song was not done today, etc

Lady - written by Dennis (by himself, but wait another year and somebody else will claim they wrote this). Great song, but easily dropped from the set. Why? For starters it is a love song, even though no violins or choirs on it, the lyrics (in some people's opinions) are along those sappy kind like on Best of Times, Babe or First Time. I can remember seeing the original line up not do it and nobody came away unhappy. Substitute full version of Man in the Wilderness.

Grand Illusion - I always thought that this was co written by Shaw/Young/Deyoung. Wrong, written by Dennis (again nobody else has claimed ghost writer)..sang by Dennis. Drop this song too...sub in Superstars which is a great song, same album, sung by TS and co written by the band.

Come Sail Away - Written by Dennis (under protest from two current band members) sung by dennis. This is the one song if not played today by a band that calls itself STYX, would probably piss several paying concert goers off...leave it in.

Loreli - co written by Young and DeYoung. Leave in if you must, however hand the vocal over to Gowan ...pleeeeeasssseeeeeeee. Or drop it and add a JY tune (Midnight Ride, or Eddie)

Other potential fill in songs for these: Borrowed Time, Sing for the Day, Shooz....
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Postby styxfanNH » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:16 am

Lady, Grand Illusion, and Come Sail Away are signature Styx Songs regardless of who wrote them, that is why they play them. Personally, I think they could replace them with other songs. They may get some grief about dropping Come Sail Away.

I don't think they should just drop a song because Dennis wrote it any more than if Dennis wanted to do a song that JY or Tommy is credited for that he should resist. I firmly believe that while each person may have brought the framework of the song to the table, each member had some type of fingerprint on the final product.

As far as Lorelie, JY does a great job with the song. And as a side note, it hasn't been in the set list for over a year.
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Postby classicstyxfan » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:16 am

JY no longer has the vocal chops to sing Midnight Ride........even if you moved the key the song is in down a couple of notes....the phrasing of each line combined with the notes sung were a challenge for him at his vocal prime, they are now far beyond his
capabilities, ( and there is no shame in that ) you'll never hear that one live again, at least by this incarnation of Styx.
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Postby ek88 » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:51 am

Other potential fill in songs for these: Borrowed Time, Sing for the Day,


Styx played both of these in Omaha a couple of years ago and they were most welcome additions to the set. (However, Grand Illusion, Lady, and Come Sail Away remained in the setlist).
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Postby styxfanNH » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:54 am

Sing for the Day replaces Crystal Ball in the medley when they play Crystal Ball in the set.
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Postby LordofDaRing » Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:56 am

"As far as Lorelie, JY does a great job with the song. And as a side note, it hasn't been in the set list for over a year."

Loreli was the third song they sang in
biloxi last weekend when I saw them and yes JY attempted to sing it.
It comes right after Blue collar Man, and Grand Illusion.

Certain songs ought to be dropped from their set due to burn out as well, I have never been a huge fan of to much time on my hands for instance.
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Postby styxfanNH » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:03 am

Then I stand corrected. They hadn't played it all summer, but I know they changed the set list for the Rama shows. Maybe they've chenged it up a bit.
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Postby Jaybird » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:01 am

Certain songs ought to be dropped from their set due to burn out as well, I have never been a huge fan of to much time on my hands for instance.

Honestly, if this is the case (and I agree) then shouldn't this lead to dropping about 75% of the current setlist? Play the "have to plays" and maybe change up the rest, I guess.
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